not F1.. FE cars...

not F1.. FE cars...

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andburg

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7,582 posts

175 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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how amazing do those new FE cars look?

even the halo looks ok, they've used the lines of the halo in the common aero kit so its blends in as a single piece of design.

we're not almost midway betweeen open wheel and sportscar racing.

its a shame they're race in city centres like dodgems

HorneyMX5

5,398 posts

156 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Interesting looking, I also note the cars will now do a full race at a faster pace from the next season.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

87 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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I hate the sound of them. While the racing's been ok, it's not really the best of sounds is it? Screaming Banshee's with laryngitis.

rdjohn

6,333 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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I think that the racing looks fine on a permanent circuit, like Mexico at the weekend, and agree that Micky Mouse city circuits could be the undoing of a potentially entertaining series.

When the series was first announced, I thought it would be dead by now. The need to switch cars drawing out the obvious flaw of EVs becoming generic for road use. The Gen 2 cars hopefully will overcome this drawback.

There are aspects that could be useful to Ros Brawn for 2021 regs. Particularly, if all cars were obliged to start with the same amount of fuel, and durable tyres, it is then easy for fans to see which cars have the potential to move through the field.

As an aside, I thought McNish looked more exhausted with the Audi win, than he ever did after a long stint at Le Mans. There is still a lot of pressure in the series.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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have they got rid of the stupid "you must use two cars", and "you cant use too much battery" rules yet?

until they do it will continue to be buzzy false racing

kambites

68,190 posts

227 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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They do look rather fabulous don't they? And as you say the halo blends in much better with the car's design than it does on F1 cars.

It'll be interesting to see how well the single car thing works out - whether they're constantly having to try to preserve battery life. If they can push the things flat out for the whole race on a single charge, it's a big step towards making it a "proper" racing series, IMO.

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Should this be in the specialist F1 forum?

Kraken

1,710 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Always makes me chuckle the way people slag off FE and have no idea about it's plans. If you can't be bothered to read up on the series why comment on it?

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

87 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Kraken said:
Always makes me chuckle the way people slag off FE and have no idea about it's plans. If you can't be bothered to read up on the series why comment on it?
Surely that's the fault of the sport? They're meant to get the public interested, and if there's more to it than what is displayed, they're doing a bad job aren't they?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

158 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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sgtBerbatov said:
Surely that's the fault of the sport? They're meant to get the public interested, and if there's more to it than what is displayed, they're doing a bad job aren't they?
In fairness - in PH, FE would be talking to an audience who aren't so much disinterested as actively resisting their advances.


Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

158 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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keirik said:
have they got rid of the stupid "you must use two cars", and "you cant use too much battery" rules yet?

until they do it will continue to be buzzy false racing
Yep - this season is the last one of that, and this will be the car that stops the car changes

HustleRussell

25,146 posts

166 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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It's easy to make a car look good / futuristic when you use standard parts which have little or no aerodynamic function. As a motorsport fan and engineer I prefer the functional aspect to the aesthetic which is why I am first and foremost an F1 fan.

I do dip into FE as well though because I would gladly watch both when FE comes of age. barriers to that, IMO;
  • Fanboost
  • Mickey mouse circuits
  • Cars which don't go the distance
none are insurmountable but I am not encouraged to hear Agag lashing out recently at critics of Fanboost and basically saying it's here to stay; I hate that, it's a big problem for me as a prospective fan.

StevieBee

13,391 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Should this be in the specialist F1 forum?
A worthy question but I think it's interesting to track the progress of FE against that of F1.

I harbour the belief that at some point in the future, the two will converge; possibly creating modern day version of the Turbo - vs - Normally Aspirated battles of the 80s (although they were seldom 'battles' as such)....or a brand new replacement Formula for both: 'F1e' or some such. Who knows? Either way there are some interesting parallels worthy of comparison.

Visually the 2nd generation FE cars look stunning. A 10 year old comparing one with the other will, I suspect, stick a poster of the FE car on the wall rather than the F1 car.

coppice

8,851 posts

150 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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It's extraordinary how binary many views are. Motor sport is a broad church and has featured 2 strokes , 4 strokes , engines from flat twins to V16s , diesels and gas turbines , turbos , superchargers and God only knows what else . So why on earth not electricity ? Nobody smiles more when they hear a howling V12 than I do , but many race cars sound pretty awful - stand up , current BTCC cars, Formula 4 , 80s F3 cars and much else besides- doesn't stop me enjoying them racing....

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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StevieBee said:
Eric Mc said:
Should this be in the specialist F1 forum?
A worthy question but I think it's interesting to track the progress of FE against that of F1.

I harbour the belief that at some point in the future, the two will converge; possibly creating modern day version of the Turbo - vs - Normally Aspirated battles of the 80s (although they were seldom 'battles' as such)....or a brand new replacement Formula for both: 'F1e' or some such. Who knows? Either way there are some interesting parallels worthy of comparison.

Visually the 2nd generation FE cars look stunning. A 10 year old comparing one with the other will, I suspect, stick a poster of the FE car on the wall rather than the F1 car.
I've never liked the splitting away of F1 discussion from the rest of motorsport on PH. It will be interesting in the future Pay TV era how lively the F1 threads will be (or not)) and whether it will warrant its own separate section on PH.

andburg

Original Poster:

7,582 posts

175 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Should this be in the specialist F1 forum?
It’s as much a commment on what f1 could be doing better as it is about fe itself.

It’s not just fe, the new Indy cars look better than f1 cars too.

Aside from the halo my biggest gripe about f1 desig is the amount floor vs the amount of actual car.

Cold

15,511 posts

96 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Thread in the correct area here.

DanielSan

19,094 posts

173 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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HustleRussell said:
It's easy to make a car look good / futuristic when you use standard parts which have little or no aerodynamic function. As a motorsport fan and engineer I prefer the functional aspect to the aesthetic which is why I am first and foremost an F1 fan.

I do dip into FE as well though because I would gladly watch both when FE comes of age. barriers to that, IMO;
  • Fanboost
  • Mickey mouse circuits
  • Cars which don't go the distance
none are insurmountable but I am not encouraged to hear Agag lashing out recently at critics of Fanboost and basically saying it's here to stay; I hate that, it's a big problem for me as a prospective fan.
All of this, is they sound terrible and that’s not an issue that can be fixed.

ajprice

28,983 posts

202 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Is the problem with fanboost that only certain drivers who get the votes for each race get it, or that it's a 'push to pass' system? I don't mind it, its a one time boost per race, equivalent to only being allowed to use DRS once in an F1 race. It doesn't make that much of a difference to results, maybe it would be better if they just call it 'boost' and all the drivers can use it once per race.

HustleRussell

25,146 posts

166 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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ajprice said:
Is the problem with fanboost that only certain drivers who get the votes for each race get it, or that it's a 'push to pass' system? I don't mind it, its a one time boost per race, equivalent to only being allowed to use DRS once in an F1 race. It doesn't make that much of a difference to results, maybe it would be better if they just call it 'boost' and all the drivers can use it once per race.
The Series professes to be a proper championship but offers select competitors a performance advantage based on the result of a popularity contest? It's utter bunk and tosh. If they all had it and could use it equally that'd be fine.