Proposed End of Friday FP Sessions
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2017/10/23/excl...
Quotes from Ross Brawn regarding ditching Friday practice being better for the teams logistically but promoters and broadcasters needing it. Granted, there's nothing in the way of commitment, it is just talking about an idea at present.
He's settled in to game keeper from his previous position of poacher extremely well. Squeezing 2 free practice sessions and qualifying in to Saturday would be extremely challenging for the teams if any technical issues came up, never mind accident damage. If he was still running a team, wanting to get the best out of his cars at the weekend, I imagine he'd be leading the argument against it (well, at Brawn anyways, when it was Ferrari with all the resources under the sun and his own test track he probably wouldn't have cared).
It strikes me that actually, this cost saving would hurt the smaller teams more as they're more resource restricted on simulator assistance for set up and driver training.
Quotes from Ross Brawn regarding ditching Friday practice being better for the teams logistically but promoters and broadcasters needing it. Granted, there's nothing in the way of commitment, it is just talking about an idea at present.
He's settled in to game keeper from his previous position of poacher extremely well. Squeezing 2 free practice sessions and qualifying in to Saturday would be extremely challenging for the teams if any technical issues came up, never mind accident damage. If he was still running a team, wanting to get the best out of his cars at the weekend, I imagine he'd be leading the argument against it (well, at Brawn anyways, when it was Ferrari with all the resources under the sun and his own test track he probably wouldn't have cared).
It strikes me that actually, this cost saving would hurt the smaller teams more as they're more resource restricted on simulator assistance for set up and driver training.
I don't recall any teams, or fans come to that, mentioning that Friday FP is an issue. Given the scarceness of in-season testing opportunity, I would imagine the teams would baulk at the idea. From a fan perspective, it offers the opportunity of seeing F1 cars in a more 'relaxed' setting rather than being rooted to the same spot as is the case on a Sunday.
bin Friday practice, re introduce Sunday warm up. Remove end of qualifying parc ferme restrictions.
1x 90 mins FP
1x 60 mins qually
1x 30 mins warm up
1 x 2 hour race
then maybe I'd think about splitting the race in to 30 mins sprint and 1 hour enduro. Sprint no stops, no fuelling or tyres, finishing position = grid position for enduro race. Enduro race, 1 x compulsory stop, 2 types of tyre but you can choose which one you want to start on. Or the tyre you use in the sprint is not the one you can use in the enduro.
1x 90 mins FP
1x 60 mins qually
1x 30 mins warm up
1 x 2 hour race
then maybe I'd think about splitting the race in to 30 mins sprint and 1 hour enduro. Sprint no stops, no fuelling or tyres, finishing position = grid position for enduro race. Enduro race, 1 x compulsory stop, 2 types of tyre but you can choose which one you want to start on. Or the tyre you use in the sprint is not the one you can use in the enduro.
Don't like it. Richest team with the most technicians running the best wind tunnel / CFD / Simulator for the most hours rock up with the best car and clean up. F1 becomes a competition to see who can acheive the best correlation. Almost 100% of the development battle takes place in the virtual world rather than the current 90% or whatever.
Stupid idea! Although I do believe on a Friday they should use the practise sessions as free test sessions! Develop your reliable engine or aero package on a Friday develop and test tyres on a Friday so literally the 2 practise sessions are a testing day with the hours break for lunch and fp3 become your actual race setting up qualifying is qualifying then the actual race on a Sunday I do think though that the grids should be mixed up with either normal grid or reverse grid and stick numbered balls in a bag whoevers race number gets drawn decides if it's a normal grid or reversed
ghost83 said:
Stupid idea!
Agreed and that's before you work out what to do GP3 practice, F2 practice, Supercup practice, GP3 qualifying and F2 qualifying, which currently all happen on a Friday.I can remember Friday practice at Silverstone 15 years ago when it was virtually empty (10,000 spectators - guess), these days Friday is pretty well attended (and enjoyable for those of us who go). Add on to that the loss of income for the circuits on Friday and it's an all round stupid idea.
I do think though that the grids should be mixed up with either normal grid or reverse grid and stick numbered balls in a bag whoevers race number gets drawn decides if it's a normal grid or reversed
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Horrible idea, why even bother with quali as nearly everyone would reverse grid to get ahead of quickest car. Alternatively the fastest would all be trying to get 10th or 11th to minimise reverse effect.
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Horrible idea, why even bother with quali as nearly everyone would reverse grid to get ahead of quickest car. Alternatively the fastest would all be trying to get 10th or 11th to minimise reverse effect.
HustleRussell said:
ghost83 said:
I do think though that the grids should be mixed up with either normal grid or reverse grid and stick numbered balls in a bag whoevers race number gets drawn decides if it's a normal grid or reversed
You can watch BTCC if you want tombola qualifying and lottery racesWouldn't you love to see the saubers haas Williams occasionally start on pole? It would also stop the top teams from turning engines down after 10 laps and actually race
I'd love nothing more than to see the top 5 drivers having to battle through the pack rather than this saving tyres s
te that currently happens
I'd love nothing more than to see the top 5 drivers having to battle through the pack rather than this saving tyres s
te that currently happensghost83 said:
Wouldn't you love to see the saubers haas Williams occasionally start on pole? It would also stop the top teams from turning engines down after 10 laps and actually race
I'd love nothing more than to see the top 5 drivers having to battle through the pack rather than this saving tyres ste that currently happens
You refer to what currently happens as if there was some bygone era when the fastest drivers started at the back of the grid? When was this golden era?I'd love nothing more than to see the top 5 drivers having to battle through the pack rather than this saving tyres s
te that currently happensAs to Williams on pole - they had a pole 3 years ago ON MERIT, Why should someone be gifted pole just for being slow?
At work, if you screw up do you get a promotion?!
it could work thinking outside the box but lower formulas would have to lose exposure to Sunday fans.
Fri - F3 etc practice and qualifying, F2 practice, F3 race 1
Sat - F1 practice, F2 qualifying, F3 Race 2, F2 race 1, F1 qualifying
Sunday - F2 race 2, track parade etc and F1 race
The venues may not make any money on a Friday anyway but without F1 numbers would drop.
You're more at the mercy of weather and with less time to move things round if things get delayed you risk cancelling more running.
I really don't see it as a viable option, the best way to do is to move the race order to minimise travel between races and create more back to back weekends at long haul.
Reality is despite it being a worldwide sport, with HAAS being the exception the teams are based in Europe so Asia/America need to be bulked together so staff can get home during the european season.
Fri - F3 etc practice and qualifying, F2 practice, F3 race 1
Sat - F1 practice, F2 qualifying, F3 Race 2, F2 race 1, F1 qualifying
Sunday - F2 race 2, track parade etc and F1 race
The venues may not make any money on a Friday anyway but without F1 numbers would drop.
You're more at the mercy of weather and with less time to move things round if things get delayed you risk cancelling more running.
I really don't see it as a viable option, the best way to do is to move the race order to minimise travel between races and create more back to back weekends at long haul.
Reality is despite it being a worldwide sport, with HAAS being the exception the teams are based in Europe so Asia/America need to be bulked together so staff can get home during the european season.
andburg said:
Reality is despite it being a worldwide sport, with HAAS being the exception the teams are based in Europe so Asia/America need to be bulked together so staff can get home during the european season.
Even HAAS have a UK base (the old Marussia factory in Banbury) that they use for car preparation etc.
ghost83 said:
Stupid idea! Although I do believe on a Friday they should use the practise sessions as free test sessions! Develop your reliable engine or aero package on a Friday develop and test tyres on a Friday so literally the 2 practise sessions are a testing day with the hours break for lunch and fp3 become your actual race setting up qualifying is qualifying then the actual race on a Sunday I do think though that the grids should be mixed up with either normal grid or reverse grid and stick numbered balls in a bag whoevers race number gets drawn decides if it's a normal grid or reversed
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