The Official 2017 Japanese Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2017 Japanese Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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K50 DEL

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9,333 posts

234 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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I'll have another go then, let's see if I can get it right this time!!

Date(s): Friday 06 - Sunday 08 October 2017

UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)

All sessions are live on Sky F1 & Highlights on Channel 4.

Session Day Sky F1 Channel 4 Session Start Local Time
Practice 1 Fri 0145 ---- 0200 1000
Practice 2 Fri 0545 ---- 0600 1400
Practice 3 Sat 0345 ---- 0400 1200
Qualifying Sat 0600 1300 0700 1500
Race Sun 0530 1500 0600 1400


Suzuka Circuit (Suzuka International Racing Course)



Live timing for all sessions available here:

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/f1-...

Weather forecast:

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/japan/Suzuk...

Event timings, steward decisions, technical reports and laptimes for the weekend will appear here:

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-c...

The tyre choices:






2016 Grand Prix

This happened.


Rosberg was extremely happy to win this race, even more so becuse Lewis was only in 3rd, positioning which meant the German left Japan with a 33 point lead over his teammate.



This result meant that Mercedes wrapped up the constructors title in Japan, giving them their third consecutive title.




Described as one of the most technically challenging tracks on the calendar, Suzuka has played host to some major dramas in the past (Senna and Prost we're looking at you)
This year is likely to be equally tough fought, with Lewis leading by 34 points going into the weekend Vettel really needs a clean race and a good result if he's not to all but remove himself from the championship fight.

Edited by K50 DEL on Tuesday 3rd October 10:07

kambites

68,189 posts

227 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Any news yet on whether Vettel is going to have to take a gearbox penalty due to the collision with Stroll?

K50 DEL

Original Poster:

9,333 posts

234 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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kambites said:
Any news yet on whether Vettel is going to have to take a gearbox penalty due to the collision with Stroll?
Latest I can find is that the gearbox has been flown back to Maranello for inspection, no news other than that.

HustleRussell

25,145 posts

166 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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I love Suzuka

I wonder whether Mercedes' relative lack of pace in Malaysia was just a blip, or are we going to have Ferraris and Red Bulls all over the silver cars?

Dr Z

3,396 posts

177 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Lots of quick corners but the back 'straight' almost as long as the one in China (including a flat out 130R)...with a fairly high exit speed from Spoon. Relatively cool track temps expected (around 35 C), which should help Merc not overheat their tyres too much. RBs will be with their tail up here (literally and figuratively), after their performance in Malaysia, and they should do. Their car should eat some of these corners for breakfast.

Aero efficiency could well come into it due to the high exit speed from Spoon.

This should be interesting. Could well finish Ferraris title hopes or give them confidence. Glad it's only a few days away.

Expecting pole lap in the 1m27s. A good chance that the lap record could be broken. Current holder of the record is Kimi @ 2005.

Derek Smith

46,331 posts

254 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Dr Z said:
Lots of quick corners but the back 'straight' almost as long as the one in China (including a flat out 130R)...with a fairly high exit speed from Spoon. Relatively cool track temps expected (around 35 C), which should help Merc not overheat their tyres too much. RBs will be with their tail up here (literally and figuratively), after their performance in Malaysia, and they should do. Their car should eat some of these corners for breakfast.

Aero efficiency could well come into it due to the high exit speed from Spoon.

This should be interesting. Could well finish Ferraris title hopes or give them confidence. Glad it's only a few days away.

Expecting pole lap in the 1m27s. A good chance that the lap record could be broken. Current holder of the record is Kimi @ 2005.
What's the engine allocation for RB like? Max didn't push his in Malaysia I know, but they are not known for longevity.

Not one of the easiest circuits to overtake so an advantage to Merc, or at least LH, there I think.

It's got to be a cracker.


Dr Z

3,396 posts

177 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Derek Smith said:
What's the engine allocation for RB like? Max didn't push his in Malaysia I know, but they are not known for longevity.

Not one of the easiest circuits to overtake so an advantage to Merc, or at least LH, there I think.

It's got to be a cracker.
Not easy to overtake doesn't apply to Max. biggrin

Seriously, he'll be one to watch here, he loves these fast and flowing old school tracks and it suits his driving style. And fresh off his 2nd GP win.

They took a penalty in Monza to get a fresh engine into the pool for both drivers, so they're good on engines.

Derek Smith

46,331 posts

254 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Thanks for that. I forgot the penalties.

I regret to say that I've got the feeling that an up and buzzing Verstappen at a circuit like Suzuka is not something that will end happily. He needs to get on pole and be away from challenges. He could so easily overcook things.

But that's half the fun of him.

Could be good.




LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

202 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Hopefully FOM will release more videos like these, drivers briefing at the Malaysia GP;
https://youtu.be/NOCTBsG52s8

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

196 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Derek Smith said:
Thanks for that. I forgot the penalties.

I regret to say that I've got the feeling that an up and buzzing Verstappen at a circuit like Suzuka is not something that will end happily. He needs to get on pole and be away from challenges. He could so easily overcook things.

But that's half the fun of him.

Could be good.
Agreed he's been guilty of trying to win the race at the first corner on more than one occasion, but he didn't do that in Malaysia, waited for the right moment to overtake and won the race, maybe he's started to learn you can't win with three wheels.

iandc

3,773 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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K50 DEL said:
Latest I can find is that the gearbox has been flown back to Maranello for inspection, no news other than that.
Are they allowed to that? I thought once you opened it up and broke the seals it was penalties.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

169 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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OP says all sessions live on CH4 ,nope ,can't find any live stuff on 4.

They only have highlights .

I'll have a lie in ,sort of.

Blayney

2,948 posts

192 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Hopefully FOM will release more videos like these, drivers briefing at the Malaysia GP;
https://youtu.be/NOCTBsG52s8
Seems to be something liberty media have brought back. It's brilliant. Really good insight.

Interesting the question about who pays for Grosjeans car repairs.

Gary29

4,288 posts

105 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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lucido grigio said:
OP says all sessions live on CH4 ,nope ,can't find any live stuff on 4.

They only have highlights .

I'll have a lie in ,sort of.
I think the next live race on C4 is USA.

Exige77

6,522 posts

197 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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iandc said:
K50 DEL said:
Latest I can find is that the gearbox has been flown back to Maranello for inspection, no news other than that.
Are they allowed to that? I thought once you opened it up and broke the seals it was penalties.
I imagine they will put it on a kind of gearbox dyno to test it without opening it. If it looks ok they will use it, if not, they will take a penalty and use a fresh one.

rdjohn

6,333 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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HustleRussell said:
I love Suzuka

I wonder whether Mercedes' relative lack of pace in Malaysia was just a blip, or are we going to have Ferraris and Red Bulls all over the silver cars?
The weather will be a lot cooler, so their tyre temperature issues should not be such a big problem.

Trouble is, the Ferraris are fast everywhere, lack of ultimate power will probably hold back RB, but, hopefully, another great race to enjoy.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

169 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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Gary29 said:
lucido grigio said:
OP says all sessions live on CH4 ,nope ,can't find any live stuff on 4.

They only have highlights .

I'll have a lie in ,sort of.
I think the next live race on C4 is USA.
Thanks for that....smile

See y'all then.

suffolk009

5,689 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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What are the odds of Kimi winning?

Derek Smith

46,331 posts

254 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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suffolk009 said:
What are the odds of Kimi winning?
He will not win if Vettel is second. If, however, Hamilton is second and Vettel third, he could get on the first step.


Hungrymc

6,830 posts

143 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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I'm really looking forward to this. Ferrari and Red Bull both looking strong, no idea which version of the Merc will turn up, the untouchable one, or the awkward one? Who is going to have some bad luck or make a mistake? Anything could happen, cant wait.