Gasly replaces Kyvat at Malaysian GP

Gasly replaces Kyvat at Malaysian GP

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Smollet

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11,454 posts

196 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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I suspect this is the death on Kyvat's lively F1 career.

stemll

4,256 posts

206 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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So Torro Rosso 2018 is Gasly and a random Japanese driver picked by Honda?

HustleRussell

25,145 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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I didn't notice until this was announced that so far this season, Saintz has outscored Kyvat 48-4. For every point Kvyat has scored, Saintz has scored 12.

I have long wondered how Kvyat got where he was, I can only guess there was some political manoeuvring involved with Ecclestone trying to cosy up to the Russians and promote the future Russian Grand Prix.

Smollet

Original Poster:

11,454 posts

196 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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HustleRussell said:
I have long wondered how Kvyat got where he was, I can only guess there was some political manoeuvring involved with Ecclestone trying to cosy up to the Russians and promote the future Russian Grand Prix.
Tbf he was iirc GP3 champion and showed promise but the pressure would’ve appeared to have got to him and he started to outdrive himself and drive into others in his desperation to reassert himself.

FourWheelDrift

89,428 posts

290 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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HustleRussell said:
I didn't notice until this was announced that so far this season, Saintz has outscored Kyvat 48-4. For every point Kvyat has scored, Saintz has scored 12.

I have long wondered how Kvyat got where he was, I can only guess there was some political manoeuvring involved with Ecclestone trying to cosy up to the Russians and promote the future Russian Grand Prix.
GP3 champion with Arden (Horner's team) in 2013 Carlos Sainz Jr was only 10th. He outscored Ricciardo when they were both at Red Bull in 2015, the year after Ricciardo had demolished Vettel at Red Bull.

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

144 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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Have to say I didn't see this coming until the off-season.....

Kvyat has done a Palmer and lost his confidence and let it affect his performances....a downward spiral

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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About time.

Should have been before 2017.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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Every time he's on the car radio, it's just constant moaning. It's almost as if he and Grosjean are in competition as to who is the most miserable.

Good riddance to Kvyat.

parabolica

6,795 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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janesmith1950 said:
Every time he's on the car radio, it's just constant moaning. It's almost as if he and Grosjean are in competition as to who is the most miserable.

Good riddance to Kvyat.
When was the last time you heard any driver say anything positive on the radio (apart from at the end of the race)?

I do like Kyvat but reckon this'll be the end of his time in F1; he had a few good races in the main RB team before being usurped by Max through no real fault of his own and he's never really recovered from that. Everyone thought that with Carlos leaving he might get a hail-mary pass for 2018 but I reckon STR will go with Gasly and another driver next year.

hairyben

8,516 posts

189 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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stemll said:
So Torro Rosso 2018 is Gasly and a random Japanese driver picked by Honda?
Kvvat back by race 4 perhaps..?

Real shame, cant help but feel he's had a raw deal. He's not someone I'd consider on rics level but you just cant write down the out pointing, he was showing some potential before being garbaged for verstappen and seems unable to pull himself together again. Although perhaps red bull is too caustic an environment for that process, maybe hes a bit like hamilton where his biggest threat is himself.

StevieBee

13,391 posts

261 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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I've long considered Kyvat a very good professional racing driver; someone who could perform well in any top series; a safe pair of hands and the ability to win the odd race or two - not necessarily championships. His time in F1 will up his stock in the US or WEC, no doubt.

I think I'm right in saying that he was never a pay driver and was retained which suggests his presence in F1 was based purely on merit.

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

144 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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StevieBee said:
I've long considered Kyvat a very good professional racing driver; someone who could perform well in any top series; a safe pair of hands and the ability to win the odd race or two - not necessarily championships. His time in F1 will up his stock in the US or WEC, no doubt.

I think I'm right in saying that he was never a pay driver and was retained which suggests his presence in F1 was based purely on merit.
He's potentially a Perez......faint praise I think

C Lee Farquar

4,084 posts

222 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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HustleRussell said:
I have long wondered how Kvyat got where he was, I can only guess there was some political manoeuvring involved with Ecclestone trying to cosy up to the Russians and promote the future Russian Grand Prix.
I'm guessing Russia is a rapidly growing market for fizzy drinks.

rubystone

11,254 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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I think he brings Russian money to the team; remember the bank that appeared on the car? He'll be in the car for 2018 though, regardless. Matsusta doesn't have enough points for a Superlicence yet.

Smollet

Original Poster:

11,454 posts

196 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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Car-Matt said:
He's potentially a Perez......faint praise I think
Possibly a thinking man’s Maldonado without the oil.

ajprice

28,978 posts

202 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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He's got more penalty points than championship points, he's probably still got the most penalty points of any driver this year with Vettel close behind him. He got moved to make room for Verstappen at Red Bull, now he's being benched to make room for Gasly coming up through Red Bull Juniors, meanwhile, Sainz moves on to Renault. Verstappen and Sainz have moved on through Toro Rosso. Kyvat has made a mess of being an F1 driver, you don't get called Torpedo for no reason, hopefully Gasly will keep the seat for the rest of the year.

rubystone

11,254 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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ajprice said:
He's got more penalty points than championship points, he's probably still got the most penalty points of any driver this year with Vettel close behind him. He got moved to make room for Verstappen at Red Bull, now he's being benched to make room for Gasly coming up through Red Bull Juniors, meanwhile, Sainz moves on to Renault. Verstappen and Sainz have moved on through Toro Rosso. Kyvat has made a mess of being an F1 driver, you don't get called Torpedo for no reason, hopefully Gasly will keep the seat for the rest of the year.
It is possible that Red Bull expected Sainz to move immediately and thus offered Gasly his seat. Once Palmer made it clear he wasn't interested in vacating his seat until the end of the season, they had to go through with that decision.

red_slr

18,034 posts

195 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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I like him. Proper racing driver. Ok made a few mistakes but actually has some balls.

I suspect he has the backing to continue in another team next year. Red Bull stuffed him after demoting him and I bet that's gone in a few peoples memory banks back in the mother land..

andburg

7,580 posts

175 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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and Gasly immediately goes out and outpaces Sainz in both practice sessions!

that said the TR looks slow and next year it'll be even slower he's only going to have the saubers and his teammate to beat.

DS240

4,825 posts

224 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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Never got over being axed from Red Bull so suddenly... and this will properly break his spirit completely now. Probable end to F1 career.