Kaltenborn leaves Sauber

Kaltenborn leaves Sauber

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Doink

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1,655 posts

153 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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With immediate effect, no real reason other than the owners Longbow finance are keen to bring in their own individual to run the team day to day, possible I guess but I wonder if there's something else going on like Honda insisting on a Japanese team principle along with the works engine, maybe they'll become a works team again?

Ahonen

5,022 posts

285 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Autosport said:
Autosport understands former HRT F1 team principal Colin Kolles is a candidate to replace Kaltenborn.
In which case they'll probably fold by the end of the year.

MG511

1,754 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Ahonen said:
In which case they'll probably fold by the end of the year.
If his LeMans 24hour entry retired after 7 laps (iirc), how long will his Honda powered F1 car last in a race?

FourWheelDrift

89,426 posts

290 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Colin Kolles the Romanian dentist.

"This Honda engine..."

jingars

1,118 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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How she survived the "Marcus Ericsson / Felipe Nasr / Giedo van der Garde / Adrian Sutil all having racing seat contracts at the same time" fiasco was beyond me.

Doink

Original Poster:

1,655 posts

153 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Maybe being a qualified lawyer had something to do with it?

DanielSan

19,094 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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When it comes to team principals it can't get much worse, until they get Kolles in to replace her. It's a bit like getting Flávio Briatore to do your pit stop strategies.

Ahonen

5,022 posts

285 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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DanielSan said:
When it comes to team principals it can't get much worse, until they get Kolles in to replace her. It's a bit like getting Flávio Briatore to do your pit stop strategies.
Kolles did a stellar job at Midland/Spyker, HRT and Caterham. It's like having an albatross land on your boat.

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Doink said:
Maybe being a qualified lawyer had something to do with it?

Yes. As a team principal she made a good lawyer........

Otispunkmeyer

12,939 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Motorsport.com cites that the team owners want to give preference to Ericsson over Wherlein and she doesn't agree with what they want to do.

Either way... she wasn't brilliant.

Europa1

10,923 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Ahonen said:
Kolles did a stellar job at Midland/Spyker, HRT and Caterham. It's like having an albatross land on your boat.
Then being introduced to your crewmate, Jonah.

Dermot O'Logical

2,769 posts

135 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Kolles? Haven't Sauber suffered enough?

mikecassie

620 posts

165 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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I agree, Kolles is almost guaranteed to ruin what is left of Sauber. How he keeps getting back in as a Team Principal is beyond me.

As for Kaltenborn, I was never a fan of her either, but if what Autosport report is true, then fair dues to her standing her ground. Ericsson is middling at best and although Wehrlien maybe isn't as good as first thought, he's a damn sight better than Ericsson.

anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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The driver argument is a smokescreen, she couldn't care less who was driving the car other than how much cash they could bring.

The Le Mans car was effectively out after 3 corners, just unfortunate circumstances with debris from the Toyota that cause it to overheat and damaged the engine. It may well have won had that not happened.

Vaud

51,821 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Motorsport.com cites that the team owners want to give preference to Ericsson over Wherlein and she doesn't agree with what they want to do.

Either way... she wasn't brilliant.
Really? Peter Sauber was no fool, and he not only trusted her, but also gifted her 1/3 of the team (IIRC).

She is highly regarded up and down the paddock.

I bet she appears somewhere else quiet quickly, if she wants to stay at F1.

rubystone

11,254 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Vaud said:
Really? Peter Sauber was no fool, and he not only trusted her, but also gifted her 1/3 of the team (IIRC).

She is highly regarded up and down the paddock.

I bet she appears somewhere else quiet quickly, if she wants to stay at F1.
I agree - I think she needed some better PR people at the time of the mulit-driver debacle, but then there's probably more to the Van De Garde story than meets the eye. And as a lawyer she was probably aware of what she should and shouldn't say at that time. I wouldn't rule her out resurfacing in the Liberty team somewhere.

Ahonen

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285 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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jsf said:
It may well have won had that not happened.
I reckon, based on the car's previous performances, that may be a bit wide of the mark. But I like the sentiment.

Crafty_

13,433 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Kolles is apparently not in the running. Fred Vasseur and Dave Ryan have been mentioned.

The team have released statements saying the allegation of unfair treatment between the drivers is untrue.

As far as Monisha goes, the whole contract thing was clearly to keep the cashflow going. The real question is how they got to that point.

Sauber was done when he sold it to BMW and was reluctant to get involved after BMW announced their departure, he did so out of a sense of duty I seem to recall. Monisha came along and he saw someone that he could gradually offload the team on to and thats exactly what he did.

Problem is no-one was looking forwards at the long term. The team goes from podium finisher to back marker in 2 seasons.

Williams struggled at one point - they diversified and then sold that business, Force India manage on small budgets. Sauber failed to look past the current season and then found themselves in difficulties. Ultimately you have to look to the leadership at that point.

Kaltenborn has also said some very stupid things - F1 is poor value for sponsors (while desperately trying to find some for the team) stands out as particularly daft.

With that said, the whole longbow situation is weird, they aren't racers, if they were in it to promote their man why not just buy a seat somewhere ? Its what the Strolls have done. On the flip side, owning a team didn't go well for GENII did it ? so as an investment house, why follow that example ? Maybe financials are starting to bite, hence the disagreements with Kaltenborn ?

Assuming it survivies the team have a 2+ year journey to re-capture former glories if the money and expertise are put in place.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

217 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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It doesn't take a lot of reading between the lines of the Autosport / motorsport.com article to get a better view of what's going on. The owners of Sauber are effectively Marcus Ericsson's backers (owners of TetraPak) and will have kept Monisha onboard for stability reasons as much as anything else. As things have developed they don't see eye to eye so she's out, she no longer has any shares in the team (when Longbow took control they were sold/surrendered) so is purely an employee.

I don't doubt for a moment that the owners want to favour Ericsson, and that the rest of the team disagree though. Maybe there will be a third driver jumping into Pascal's car on Friday mornings pretty soon.

corozin

2,680 posts

277 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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