Advantage of F1's top three teams a "complete joke" to Sainz
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128958...
Doubt anyone would disagree with his statement.
It is a complete joke but at least there seems to be two teams in the running this year.
Doubt anyone would disagree with his statement.
It is a complete joke but at least there seems to be two teams in the running this year.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128958...
Doubt anyone would disagree with his statement.
It is a complete joke but at least there seems to be two teams in the running this year.
Well, he's half right.Doubt anyone would disagree with his statement.
It is a complete joke but at least there seems to be two teams in the running this year.
The top three teams make the rest look like a joke.
But:-
One of the three is a customer team.
And another one of the three, supplies same spec engines to it's customers.
So really isn't it just "the rest" doing a p1ss poor job?
Autosport said:
In the Australia Grand Prix, Lewis Hamilton's pole position time was 1.886 seconds faster than Romain Grosjean's Haas in sixth, while Felipe Massa's Williams was the best of the rest in China, 1.829s adrift.
Wow, 1st to 6th covered by 1.8 seconds that's really close.I remember when 1.4s covered front first 2 or when 3.3 seconds covered the first 3, and 8 seconds covered the front to the back of the grid. And when some had to pre-qualify and were 15 seconds slower.
StevieBee said:
The disparity of performance throughout the F1 grid has always been there and in the past - to levels significantly greater than today.
In the 80s and 90s, back markers were regularly lapped within 5 laps of the start.
Many races where the winner would lap everyone up to about 4th place too. In the 80s and 90s, back markers were regularly lapped within 5 laps of the start.
RB, Ferrari and Merc have one thing in common - money - and that has generally meant a team will be in the top three places. Mind you, it hasn't always helped Ferrari and their ability to waste resources is legendary.
I can understand the chap's frustration, but even in the days of the majority of teams equipped with the DFV, the qualifying times varied a great deal.
What strikes me as odd, and sad, is Williams inability to mix it despite having a quality engine.
I can understand the chap's frustration, but even in the days of the majority of teams equipped with the DFV, the qualifying times varied a great deal.
What strikes me as odd, and sad, is Williams inability to mix it despite having a quality engine.
Plus ca change, plus ca la meme chose . If Master Sainz wants more spec formula racing then try Indy . like his pal Fernando. If he looks at a bit of F 1 history then major disparity between sharp and blunt end of grids (or between sharp end of blunt end and blunt end of sharp end) is the norm. Too many examples to quote them all but - Auto Unions and Mercs pre war, Mercs in 50s , Lotus 25, 49 , 72 and 79 weren't too shabby, 88 season McLaren Honda ( he said , without a trace of irony) 92 Wiliams etc etc
London424 said:
StevieBee said:
The disparity of performance throughout the F1 grid has always been there and in the past - to levels significantly greater than today.
In the 80s and 90s, back markers were regularly lapped within 5 laps of the start.
Many races where the winner would lap everyone up to about 4th place too. In the 80s and 90s, back markers were regularly lapped within 5 laps of the start.
Which is a big improvement over the modern era where lack of testing means you struggle to catch up if you start the first race off the pace.
HustleRussell said:
Trabi601 said:
But you'd still often see 6-8 drivers in 3 or 4 different cars winning races.
Due in no small part to the fact that quite often half the field would retire with reliability issuesMade for much more tense racing, as you never knew if a car would let go and change the race completely.
But people weren't running flat all out the time back then either . Plenty of cars would blow up if at the smallest provocation - Zakspeed and Toleman were serial offenders. Still loved the unpredictability and few sights were more impressive than a boosted off the scale Williams Honda or Brabham BMW in last minutes of qualifying .I saw Rosberg's 161 mph lap at Silverstone in '85 and that was just epic
Trabi601 said:
London424 said:
StevieBee said:
The disparity of performance throughout the F1 grid has always been there and in the past - to levels significantly greater than today.
In the 80s and 90s, back markers were regularly lapped within 5 laps of the start.
Many races where the winner would lap everyone up to about 4th place too. In the 80s and 90s, back markers were regularly lapped within 5 laps of the start.
Which is a big improvement over the modern era where lack of testing means you struggle to catch up if you start the first race off the pace.
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