Standing restarts after safety car

Standing restarts after safety car

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fcuk1_6

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189 posts

186 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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It has been confirmed that there will be standing starts after every safety car period this year, might improve the specticale but think this could cause problems with backmarkers and pit stops while under the safety car, time will tell I guess.

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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I don't see this improving safety much.

I'm all for it smile

RDMcG

19,458 posts

213 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Should be interesting especially if it is in a period where there is a drying track and a mix of tires....

MitchT

16,161 posts

215 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Will probably make for a better spectacle but it isn't particularly fair as a restart should maximise the chances of people picking up where they left off at the point when the race stopped. Strikes me as another quick fix gimmick.

Rick101

6,989 posts

156 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Will be a test for the drivers. Not sure how much it would wear that clutches/drivechain.

If we see a thing like Brazil again they better get practicing those starts.

geeks

9,541 posts

145 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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I still think the pit lane should be closed for Safety Car periods, we have seen a number of races effectively nullified by it happening

KevinCamaroSS

12,049 posts

286 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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If there are going to be standing starts each time, why not just red flag the race until the problem is cleared, then restart?

thegreenhell

16,825 posts

225 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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No mention of this in the latest Sporting Regs that were published yesterday. That document still has the usual rolling restart for SC deployments during the race. The only change is for a standing start at the end of a safety car start to the race.

suffolk009

5,688 posts

171 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
If there are going to be standing starts each time, why not just red flag the race until the problem is cleared, then restart?
That would be my assumption.

r11co

6,244 posts

236 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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thegreenhell said:
The only change is for a standing start at the end of a safety car start to the race.
How pointless is that?

Might as well just send the safety car around on its own until the track is deemed 'race-safe', delay the start until then and reduce the number of race laps by the number of laps the safety car has completed.

The whole point of rolling race starts behind the safety car was to prevent first-corner pile-ups on a damp track. This change seems to forget that.

Daston

6,112 posts

209 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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r11co said:
How pointless is that?

Might as well just send the safety car around on its own until the track is deemed 'race-safe', delay the start until then and reduce the number of race laps by the number of laps the safety car has completed.

The whole point of rolling race starts behind the safety car was to prevent first-corner pile-ups on a damp track. This change seems to forget that.
I would have thought part of the reason is for clearing standing water on wet race days. Plus it avoids the annoying problem of everyone pitting for slicks as soon as the safety car goes in.

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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Daston said:
r11co said:
How pointless is that?

Might as well just send the safety car around on its own until the track is deemed 'race-safe', delay the start until then and reduce the number of race laps by the number of laps the safety car has completed.

The whole point of rolling race starts behind the safety car was to prevent first-corner pile-ups on a damp track. This change seems to forget that.
I would have thought part of the reason is for clearing standing water on wet race days. Plus it avoids the annoying problem of everyone pitting for slicks as soon as the safety car goes in.

That was the main reason. They are more than capable of having first corner pile ups what get the conditions and 20 F1 cars will disperse the rainwater massively more effectively than 1 safety car.

Seems a reasonable proposal to me.

r11co

6,244 posts

236 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Daston said:
r11co said:
Might as well just send the safety car around on its own until the track is deemed 'race-safe', delay the start until then and reduce the number of race laps by the number of laps the safety car has completed.

The whole point of rolling race starts behind the safety car was to prevent first-corner pile-ups on a damp track. This change seems to forget that.
I would have thought part of the reason is for clearing standing water on wet race days.
There are purpose built machines that can do that much more effectively than 20+ F1 cars.



Daston said:
Plus it avoids the annoying problem of everyone pitting for slicks as soon as the safety car goes in.
If you don't send them out purely as processional track-cleaners in the first place then there would be no need for them to change to slicks/inters for the proper start as they'd already have them on.

Not thinking this one through, are you? A standing start renders a preceding safety-car wet start procession a wholly pointless exercise with no positives whatsoever other than to give the TV cameras some moving billboards to point at while no-one is watching.

rolleyes

Trust me - after the first time the spectators have had to witness the consequences of this kneejerk rule-change it will quickly go the same way as the knockout qualifying system.

Edited by r11co on Tuesday 31st January 14:54