Baku dangerous ?

Baku dangerous ?

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ivanhoew

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998 posts

247 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Um,,,is it me, or does Baku look like a lethal death trap to anyone else ?

Adrian W

14,329 posts

234 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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yeh but.........................BE has been paid

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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It's OK - they'll all be wearing halos next year and it will be 100% safe.

Of course it's dangerous. Good, I say.

stevesuk

1,362 posts

188 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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ivanhoew said:
Um,,,is it me, or does Baku look like a lethal death trap to anyone else ?
There seems to be very little in the way of run-off at some of the turns, and the crash protection surrounding some of the buildings seems to equate to a sheet of steel. Monaco doesn't always seem very safe, but this potentially looks a lot more dangerous - especially given the narrowness of the track at some points.

I guess the drivers will have to show some old school respect towards the circuit - but quite surprised that someone approved it in this age of risk assessments and health and safety.

ivanhoew

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998 posts

247 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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oh good not just me then .

i have this surreal image of a lot of f1 cars being poured into a steel funnel by bernie using one hand ,the other held out for the sheckels being thrust into it by the oil rich/tabloid press/cvc ,whilst mouthing the words "just watch this.."



maybe less parmesan cheese for me .

SmoothCriminal

5,271 posts

205 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Track looks massive is much wider than Monaco Hamilton equated some places to a motorway. Yes the turn by the old city is tight but looking at the way Rosberg just took the turn they go no where near that bit of sheet metal.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

180 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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ivanhoew said:
Um,,,is it me, or does Baku look like a lethal death trap to anyone else ?
It does..... run off areas as small as Monaco but speeds as high as Monza.... disaster waiting to happen IMO. If the drivers are being sensible they will have to leave huge margins into certain corners, probably only pushing 100% in Q3.

stevesuk

1,362 posts

188 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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SmoothCriminal said:
Track looks massive is much wider than Monaco Hamilton equated some places to a motorway. Yes the turn by the old city is tight but looking at the way Rosberg just took the turn they go no where near that bit of sheet metal.
When the driver isn't in the middle of having an accident, then yes, they probably are nowhere near making contact with the sheet metal clad area. The trouble is, things don't always go to plan...

Boring_Chris

2,348 posts

128 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Eric Mc said:
It's OK - they'll all be wearing halos next year and it will be 100% safe.

Of course it's dangerous. Good, I say.
Good?

Have you seen the circuit? As Hamilton described, it's a motorway.

If they were at say, Zandvoort, and the issue of safety came up, I'd probably agree with your sentiment. But if I were an F1 driver (not chasing a championship) and asked to take on this circuit, I'd certainly be weighing up the why's and asking if the test driver wanted their chance to shine.

It just looks pointlessly dangerous. If that could ever be a reasonable statement.

AWRacing

1,730 posts

231 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Boring_Chris said:
Good?

Have you seen the circuit? As Hamilton described, it's a motorway.

If they were at say, Zandvoort, and the issue of safety came up, I'd probably agree with your sentiment. But if I were an F1 driver (not chasing a championship) and asked to take on this circuit, I'd certainly be weighing up the why's and asking if the test driver wanted their chance to shine.

It just looks pointlessly dangerous. If that could ever be a reasonable statement.
And that's why your not an f1 driver...

These are drivers at the top of their game, they should be able to cope on any circuit

Munter

31,326 posts

247 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Having watched a bit of FP1 it looks ok to me. They are not going fast in that particularly tight bit and a bunch of them used the escape roads/run off, where it was needed, without hitting anything (in the period I was watching...stuff may have happened later).

I don't see it being any more dangerous than some of the Indycar street circuits.

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

105 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Indycar street circuits. Are they paragons of safety?


glazbagun

14,430 posts

203 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I think the speed is an issue should one lose control at the wrong point. A tank slapper or crashing like Max Verstappen at Monaco this year could have some heavy consequences.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

234 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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AWRacing said:
Boring_Chris said:
Good?

Have you seen the circuit? As Hamilton described, it's a motorway.

If they were at say, Zandvoort, and the issue of safety came up, I'd probably agree with your sentiment. But if I were an F1 driver (not chasing a championship) and asked to take on this circuit, I'd certainly be weighing up the why's and asking if the test driver wanted their chance to shine.

It just looks pointlessly dangerous. If that could ever be a reasonable statement.
And that's why your not an f1 driver...

These are drivers at the top of their game, they should be able to cope on any circuit
Haha, that is a statement from several years ago, wondering when the next death will be.
'Drivers at the top of their game', yes, formula 1 drivers never crash do they? .. But of course they do, there are mistakes and there are car failures, which is why circuits are designed to have reasonable run offs, you know to prevent deaths from hitting a castle wall at vast rate of knots. Sorry, some of you folks missed the boat for getting to see someone die in a fireball every other race.

Edited by stephen300o on Friday 17th June 12:39

stew-S160

8,006 posts

244 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Macau...

hornet

6,333 posts

256 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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AWRacing said:
And that's why your not an f1 driver...

These are drivers at the top of their game, they should be able to cope on any circuit
A wet one in Japan perhaps?

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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ivanhoew said:
oh good not just me then .

i have this surreal image of a lot of f1 cars being poured into a steel funnel by bernie using one hand ,the other held out for the sheckels being thrust into it by the oil rich/tabloid press/cvc ,whilst mouthing the words "just watch this.."



maybe less parmesan cheese for me .
That image reminds me of this -



Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Boring_Chris said:
Good?

Have you seen the circuit? As Hamilton described, it's a motorway.

If they were at say, Zandvoort, and the issue of safety came up, I'd probably agree with your sentiment. But if I were an F1 driver (not chasing a championship) and asked to take on this circuit, I'd certainly be weighing up the why's and asking if the test driver wanted their chance to shine.

It just looks pointlessly dangerous. If that could ever be a reasonable statement.
Life is pointless. Why bother doing anything that has risk attached to it?

stephen300o

15,464 posts

234 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Boring_Chris said:
Good?

Have you seen the circuit? As Hamilton described, it's a motorway.

If they were at say, Zandvoort, and the issue of safety came up, I'd probably agree with your sentiment. But if I were an F1 driver (not chasing a championship) and asked to take on this circuit, I'd certainly be weighing up the why's and asking if the test driver wanted their chance to shine.

It just looks pointlessly dangerous. If that could ever be a reasonable statement.
Life is pointless. Why bother doing anything that has risk attached to it?
Just the automatic response to things seen as political correctness, the swing will settle at some point I guess.
At least we have no guns to take haha

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Perhaps we need dangerous activities to let the desire for risk and the "joy" of cheating death have an outlet.

If we make everything so safe that all this "thrill" is removed, will these desires surface in some other arena - maybe in the form of random violence?