Ferrari coded message

Ferrari coded message

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andburg

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7,571 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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so apparently Ferrari have been let off for giving a message on pitboard to Vettel in Australia to alter his fuel mixture so he wouldn't run out of fuel. The FIA have not said this was a legal message just that no further action will be taken due to circumstances.

I understand he had no way of knowing he was overfueling and needed to alter the mix, but he should have been allowed to run out of fuel and Ferrari then implement something to stop the ECU issue that caused it.

Is it just me that think this is wrong?

Source: http://www.grandprixtimes.com/news/id/11733

Edit: Article suggests he had to richen his fuel mixture so he didn't run out and this slowed him down. Richened mixture would have helped cooling but used more fuel so this is a little confusing. Did they lean him out to get to the end or richen to save damage to the engine?

Edited by andburg on Thursday 7th April 15:28

xjay1337

15,966 posts

124 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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No, it's not just you.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

234 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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Three words - Ferrari International Assistance. smile

Even in the interview with Bernie at the weekend's Dubai GP, he was saying stuff along the lines of Ferrari should be winning etc.

Flooble

5,567 posts

106 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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Why worry? It would appear to be another Mercedes year, so let the FIA do what it has always done, it won't make any difference. Particularly as that particular engine already expired.

Frustrating for Red Bull and Williams I grant you.


KieronGSi

1,108 posts

210 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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funkyrobot said:
Three words - Ferrari International Assistance. smile

Even in the interview with Bernie at the weekend's Dubai GP, he was saying stuff along the lines of Ferrari should be winning etc.
Assume you mean the Bahrain GP.

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

105 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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It's maFIA


Leithen

11,910 posts

273 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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Autosport has reported that it was an issue surrounding the red flag stoppage and the SECU (Standard ECU).

Apart from the original complaint, It would appear that the usual teams that might protest haven't so far. If that remains the case, one might surmise that it was a genuine issue outwith Ferrari's control and recognized as such by those in the know.

Jasandjules

70,417 posts

235 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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Sounds like the prancers have to be helped a little to ensure the Mercs don't just run away with it and make it "boring"... unlike for a number of years when a Red Car was winning a looooooottttt....

Flooble

5,567 posts

106 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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To be fair, FIA also gave Lewis Hamilton minimal punishment for reversing in the pitlane.

anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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Leithen said:
Autosport has reported that it was an issue surrounding the red flag stoppage and the SECU (Standard ECU).

Apart from the original complaint, It would appear that the usual teams that might protest haven't so far. If that remains the case, one might surmise that it was a genuine issue outwith Ferrari's control and recognized as such by those in the know.

Yes, reading the Autosport report it all seems above board. Not that that will stop the conspiracy theorists.

All I would add is that if the FIA truly do try to help Ferrari they've been doing a very poor job this past decade.........

Fastdruid

8,816 posts

158 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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andburg said:
Edit: Article suggests he had to richen his fuel mixture so he didn't run out and this slowed him down. Richened mixture would have helped cooling but used more fuel so this is a little confusing. Did they lean him out to get to the end or richen to save damage to the engine?
No, the article says the opposite although it's worded really badly.

It's saying that because he was slower after the change that implied that PREVIOUSLY he'd been running rich (and so unless the change was made would have run out).


EnglishTony

2,552 posts

105 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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Leithen said:
Autosport has reported that it was an issue surrounding the red flag stoppage and the SECU (Standard ECU).
Apparently Ferrari reckon that Vettel's problem in Bahrain was down to the ECU.

Question is, have they been given a faulty 1 or are they trying to make it do something it's not designed for?


37chevy

3,280 posts

162 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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Flooble said:
To be fair, FIA also gave Lewis Hamilton minimal punishment for reversing in the pitlane.
Yes because a marshal wasn't in the right place to tell him where to go so Lewis went to the usual spot...suprised he got reprimanded at all tbh

Buzz84

1,163 posts

155 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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REALIST123 said:
All I would add is that if the FIA truly do try to help Ferrari they've been doing a very poor job this past decade.........
Well the FIA do award Ferrari an additional £70m a year because they are Long standing team (started 1950) meaning that for the 2015 season they will receive £21m more than Mercedes.

They are the only team classed as long standing, Mclaren (1966) and Williams (1977) don't get a penny for their long service

Edited by Buzz84 on Friday 8th April 06:37

Evolved

3,640 posts

193 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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The whole thing is one big sham. Waste of time nowadays.

Flooble

5,567 posts

106 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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EnglishTony said:
Leithen said:
Autosport has reported that it was an issue surrounding the red flag stoppage and the SECU (Standard ECU).
Apparently Ferrari reckon that Vettel's problem in Bahrain was down to the ECU.

Question is, have they been given a faulty 1 or are they trying to make it do something it's not designed for?
What, like launch control? I think that was the other German Ferrari driver ...

Teppic

7,483 posts

263 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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EnglishTony said:
Apparently Ferrari reckon that Vettel's problem in Bahrain was down to the ECU.
It was.

A piston went through it.

//j17

4,587 posts

229 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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Well last time Ferrari were caught breaching pit/drive communication rules they, umm, didn't give Ferrari any penalty and changed the rules so team orders became legal.

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

105 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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Flooble said:
What, like launch control? I think that was the other German Ferrari driver ...
Speaking of German F1 drivers anybody else notice that Rosberg pulled away in 2nd gear at the start of the formation lap at Bahrain? Surely not engaging some cheat mode to beat Lewis off the line?

I do enjoy a conspiracy theory...

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

239 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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Teppic said:
EnglishTony said:
Apparently Ferrari reckon that Vettel's problem in Bahrain was down to the ECU.
It was.

A piston went through it.
hehe

There was a Team Manager who once said that the car had been retired as a result of oil starvation - it had all drained out the hole in the block created when the internal became external components!