Alonso airlifted to hospital
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Just read that Fernando Alonso has been airlifted to hospital after putting the McLaren in the wall at 150 mph
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-02-22/fernando-alonso...
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-02-22/fernando-alonso...
Edited by onyx39 on Sunday 22 February 13:46
PiB said:
Electrocuted
Is there a source for that? Ted said:
Let’s look at the possibilities,” says Ted. “Either something failed in the car – a component failure or, as has been wildly suggested online, there was an energy recovery failure which might have given Fernando an electrical shock. We can discount that; I’ve just spoken to Renault who say because that because the car was grounded it shouldn’t be possible for a driver to receive an electrical shock.
According to Vettel, who was following Alonso, "the speed was slow -- maybe 150kph. Then he turned right into the wall. It looked strange."
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/alonso-airlifted...
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/alonso-airlifted...
Inertiatic said:
Is there a source for that?
Ted said:
Let’s look at the possibilities,” says Ted. “Either something failed in the car – a component failure or, as has been wildly suggested online, there was an energy recovery failure which might have given Fernando an electrical shock. We can discount that; I’ve just spoken to Renault who say because that because the car was grounded it shouldn’t be possible for a driver to receive an electrical shock.
Is the suggestion that he was electrocuted whilst driving or while getting out? I guess while driving......I'm no physicist, or an electrician, but I would've thought it would be impossible if the car was not grounded and if it was grounded surely it depends on the relative conductivity of human vs carbon fibre.Ted said:
Let’s look at the possibilities,” says Ted. “Either something failed in the car – a component failure or, as has been wildly suggested online, there was an energy recovery failure which might have given Fernando an electrical shock. We can discount that; I’ve just spoken to Renault who say because that because the car was grounded it shouldn’t be possible for a driver to receive an electrical shock.
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Inertiatic said:
Is there a source for that?
Ted said:
Let’s look at the possibilities,” says Ted. “Either something failed in the car – a component failure or, as has been wildly suggested online, there was an energy recovery failure which might have given Fernando an electrical shock. We can discount that; I’ve just spoken to Renault who say because that because the car was grounded it shouldn’t be possible for a driver to receive an electrical shock.
Is the suggestion that he was electrocuted whilst driving or while getting out? I guess while driving......I'm no physicist, or an electrician, but I would've thought it would be impossible if the car was not grounded and if it was grounded surely it depends on the relative conductivity of human vs carbon fibre.Ted said:
Let’s look at the possibilities,” says Ted. “Either something failed in the car – a component failure or, as has been wildly suggested online, there was an energy recovery failure which might have given Fernando an electrical shock. We can discount that; I’ve just spoken to Renault who say because that because the car was grounded it shouldn’t be possible for a driver to receive an electrical shock.
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Which is precisely what Boulier's point is. A proper electrical connection to the neutral side of the battery is a far, far better conductor (lower resistance) than a human being, especially one wearing race boots and gloves.
For that human to become the conductor, something needs to have gone seriously wrong on the electrical side (lack of grounding). You also need a lot of volts (no idea what these systems run at) to bridge like that, and as the systems are battery driven DC, I'd expect that kind of event to be really serious; DC is more damaging, and a battery can dump a lot of amps very quickly.
Will be interesting to find out, but I'm pretty skeptical, especially if the car was (apparently) properly grounded in the electrical sense.
For that human to become the conductor, something needs to have gone seriously wrong on the electrical side (lack of grounding). You also need a lot of volts (no idea what these systems run at) to bridge like that, and as the systems are battery driven DC, I'd expect that kind of event to be really serious; DC is more damaging, and a battery can dump a lot of amps very quickly.
Will be interesting to find out, but I'm pretty skeptical, especially if the car was (apparently) properly grounded in the electrical sense.
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