2014 teammate comparison stats
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This is something I first brought up in the Jenson thread after someone suggested that Magnussen had qualified better than Button in 2014. I thought it would be interesting to expand it for all teams (except Marussia and Caterham, who didn't finish the season).
Qualifying stats based only on laptimes, excluding grid penalties.
Race stats exclude races where the driver retired. Head-to-head stats only count where both drivers were classified as finishers.
Race mean delta is the difference between mean qualifying position and mean race finish position, again ignoring grid penalties and race retirements.
{1} excluding grid penalties
{2} excluding retirements
Qualifying stats based only on laptimes, excluding grid penalties.
Race stats exclude races where the driver retired. Head-to-head stats only count where both drivers were classified as finishers.
Race mean delta is the difference between mean qualifying position and mean race finish position, again ignoring grid penalties and race retirements.
| Mercedes | Lewis Hamilton | Nico Rosberg |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 7 | 12 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 3.00 | 1.68 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 9 | 4 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 1.44 | 1.81 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -1.56 | +0.13 |
| Retirements from race | 3 | 3 |
| WDC points | 384 | 317 |
| Red Bull | Daniel Ricciardo | Sebastian Vettel |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 12 | 6 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 4.95 | 6.50 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 11 | 3 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 3.75 | 5.06 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -1.20 | -1.44 |
| Retirements from race | 3 | 3 |
| WDC points | 238 | 167 |
| Williams | Valtteri Bottas | Felipe Massa |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 13 | 6 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 6.00 | 7.68 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 7 | 8 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 5.56 | 7.38 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -0.44 | -0.31 |
| Retirements from race | 1 | 3 |
| WDC points | 186 | 134 |
| Ferrari | Fernando Alonso | Kimi Raikkonen |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 17 | 2 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 6.74 | 9.79 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 15 | 1 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 5.41 | 9,17 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -1.33 | -0.62 |
| Retirements from race | 2 | 1 |
| WDC points | 161 | 55 |
| McLaren | Jenson Button | Kevin Magnussen |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 10 | 9 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 8.21 | 8.68 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 14 | 3 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 7.00 | 9.56 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -1.32 | +0.88 |
| Retirements from race | 2 | 1 |
| WDC points | 126 | 55 |
| Force India | Nico Hulkenberg | Sergio Perez |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 12 | 7 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 10.89 | 12.11 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 8 | 7 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 7.71 | 8.87 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -3.19 | -3.24 |
| Retirements from race | 2 | 4 |
| WDC points | 96 | 59 |
| Torro Rosso | Jean-Eric Vergne | Daniil Kvyat |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 7 | 12 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 11.26 | 10.53 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 6 | 5 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 10.50 | 11.57 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -0.76 | +1.05 |
| Retirements from race | 5 | 5 |
| WDC points | 22 | 8 |
| Lotus | Romain Grosjean | Pastor Maldonado |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 11 | 4 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 14.89 | 16.47 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 5 | 5 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 12.85 | 13.69 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -2.05 | -2.77 |
| Retirements from race | 6 | 6 |
| WDC points | 8 | 2 |
| Sauber | Adrian Sutil | Esteban Gutierrez |
|---|---|---|
| Qualified ahead of teammate {1} | 9 | 9 |
| Mean qualifying position {1} | 15.21 | 15.33 |
| Finished ahead of teammate {2} | 5 | 5 |
| Mean finishing position {2} | 14.67 | 15.15 |
| Race mean delta {1}{2} | -0.54 | -0.18 |
| Retirements from race | 7 | 6 |
| WDC points | 0 | 0 |
{1} excluding grid penalties
{2} excluding retirements
Correct. Most drivers have a negative race mean delta because while every driver qualifies for the races not every driver finishes, so they benefit when others retire, but I have excluded their individual results from their own equation when they themselves have retired.
The idea of ignoring grid penalties and retirements was to try to give a clearer idea of relative qualifying speed and racecraft, without the external factors of reliability and certain rules which unfairly punish drivers for reliability skewing the results.
The idea of ignoring grid penalties and retirements was to try to give a clearer idea of relative qualifying speed and racecraft, without the external factors of reliability and certain rules which unfairly punish drivers for reliability skewing the results.
Retirements are not included in qualifying if the driver failed to set a time, such as Hamilton in Hungary, and Maldonado (4 times). I also didn't count the US GP for Vettel as he didn't attempt to qualify properly due to the massive penalty he knew he would serve regardless of his qualifying time.
There are quite few errors in your numbers for example these are correct values for retirements that you have listed wrong.
Rosberg 2
Massa 4
Pérez 5 if you include his DNS
Grosjean 7
Maldonado 7 if you include his DNS
Sutil 8
Gutierrez 7
These will when change all your other stats.
Rosberg 2
Massa 4
Pérez 5 if you include his DNS
Grosjean 7
Maldonado 7 if you include his DNS
Sutil 8
Gutierrez 7
These will when change all your other stats.
Edited by Speedy11 on Sunday 7th December 09:52
Some Gump said:
Although i understand why you do "when both finished", but surely the ability to finish is critical when assessing drivers?
No point being quick if you're going to do a pastor or sutil before the end of the race...
Yup, obviously you have to account for the chap who gets taken out as well, as the stats can be misleading...No point being quick if you're going to do a pastor or sutil before the end of the race...
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