EU try and ban alcohol sponsorship in F1

[BigBob]

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9562117/Dry-Futu...

What next - Ban Red Bull because it's full of sugar???


BB

[longblackcoat]

BigBob said:

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9562117/Dry-Futu...

What next - Ban Red Bull because it's full of sugar???


BB

"Eurocare is an alliance of non-governmental public health and social organisations working on the prevention and reduction of alcohol related harm in Europe."

EU? Handly.

[kambites]

Good to see even a specialist "politically neutral" publication jumping on the hysterical anti-EU bandwagon too.

[Europa1]

It's not just PlanetF1 peddling the "It's the mad, bad EU" line - Pitpass is as well - http://www.pitpass.com/52960/Todt-warned-on-F1-alc... - despite in the body of its report quoting the fact that the organisation is non-EU and the fact that the letter was also sent "to several EU Commissioners" - erm, if the European Commission was about to get heavy, it would be the EU Commissioners writing letters, not receiving them...

What is of more concern is the casual mention of the fact that the Labour party wants to get stuck in to alcohol sponsorship if it wins the General Election.

[37chevy]

BigBob said:

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9562117/Dry-Futu...

What next - Ban Red Bull because it's full of sugar???


BB

I thought red bull advertising WAS banned in france

[longblackcoat]

37chevy said:

BigBob said:

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9562117/Dry-Futu...

What next - Ban Red Bull because it's full of sugar???


BB

I thought red bull advertising WAS banned in france

Well yes, it was, but it isn't now.

[andyps]

longblackcoat said:

37chevy said:

BigBob said:

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9562117/Dry-Futu...

What next - Ban Red Bull because it's full of sugar???


BB

I thought red bull advertising WAS banned in france

Well yes, it was, but it isn't now.

I think Red Bull was banned for long enough to allow French manufacturers to develop their own equivalent

[jurbie]

longblackcoat said:

"Eurocare is an alliance of non-governmental public health and social organisations working on the prevention and reduction of alcohol related harm in Europe."

EU? Handly.

It's not unheard of for the EU to fund NGO's with the express purpose of lobbying the EU. It's an easy way for the EU to pass the laws that it wants whilst claiming it is just reacting to public concerns.

[longblackcoat]

jurbie said:

longblackcoat said:

"Eurocare is an alliance of non-governmental public health and social organisations working on the prevention and reduction of alcohol related harm in Europe."

EU? Handly.

It's not unheard of for the EU to fund NGO's with the express purpose of lobbying the EU. It's an easy way for the EU to pass the laws that it wants whilst claiming it is just reacting to public concerns.

So is that what happened here?

(Please - can we leave the EU bashing to NP&E)

[NRS]

Prevalence of drink driving? Obviously it does happen, but it's not exactly prevalent. Stuff like mobile phones on the other hand...

Better ban them too!

[Some Gump]

Sorry, but planet f1 and pitpass really are st. I'd compare them to Heat magazine, but it's not fair on Heat.

[Esseesse]

longblackcoat said:

jurbie said:

longblackcoat said:

"Eurocare is an alliance of non-governmental public health and social organisations working on the prevention and reduction of alcohol related harm in Europe."

EU? Handly.

It's not unheard of for the EU to fund NGO's with the express purpose of lobbying the EU. It's an easy way for the EU to pass the laws that it wants whilst claiming it is just reacting to public concerns.

So is that what happened here?

(Please - can we leave the EU bashing to NP&E)

If you go here you can search who gets the money... http://ec.europa.eu/budget/fts/index_en.htm

Surprise surprise this Eurocare appears in a group of people labelled "2013_PROJECT_2013 22 02 RAHRA - JOINT ACTION ON REDUCING ALCOHOL RELATED HARM" who jointly received 1,533,383 €.

They also received 352 € which looks like some kind of base rate of funding, as there's no attached project, just says '2013'.

They are also 1 or 4 who received 236,284 € for "LET IT HAPYN! (PROJECT) - EMPOWERING THE YOUTH SECTOR WITH BETTER OVERVIEW OF EVIDENCE-BASED ALCOHOL INTERVENTION PROGRAMMES"

They also received the whole of 99,000 € for "OPERATING GRANT TO EUROPEAN ALCOHOL POLICY ALLIANCE (EUROCARE) UNDER THE 2ND PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMME".

So yes these people are very much at least part funded by the EU. For those in doubt about whether to be skeptical of the EU... this is 100% par for the course. The EU routinely justifies it's decisions by funding pressure groups that fit it's agenda.

[//j17]

Esseesse said:

longblackcoat said:

jurbie said:

longblackcoat said:

"Eurocare is an alliance of non-governmental public health and social organisations working on the prevention and reduction of alcohol related harm in Europe."

EU? Handly.

It's not unheard of for the EU to fund NGO's with the express purpose of lobbying the EU. It's an easy way for the EU to pass the laws that it wants whilst claiming it is just reacting to public concerns.

So is that what happened here?

(Please - can we leave the EU bashing to NP&E)

If you go here you can search who gets the money... http://ec.europa.eu/budget/fts/index_en.htm

Surprise surprise this Eurocare appears in a group of people labelled "2013_PROJECT_2013 22 02 RAHRA - JOINT ACTION ON REDUCING ALCOHOL RELATED HARM" who jointly received 1,533,383 €.

They also received 352 € which looks like some kind of base rate of funding, as there's no attached project, just says '2013'.

They are also 1 or 4 who received 236,284 € for "LET IT HAPYN! (PROJECT) - EMPOWERING THE YOUTH SECTOR WITH BETTER OVERVIEW OF EVIDENCE-BASED ALCOHOL INTERVENTION PROGRAMMES"

They also received the whole of 99,000 € for "OPERATING GRANT TO EUROPEAN ALCOHOL POLICY ALLIANCE (EUROCARE) UNDER THE 2ND PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMME".

So yes these people are very much at least part funded by the EU. For those in doubt about whether to be skeptical of the EU... this is 100% par for the course. The EU routinely justifies it's decisions by funding pressure groups that fit it's agenda.

Let me get this right.

So because this is (indirectly) funded by the EU it must be wrong so I SHOULD drink drive?

[davepoth]

//j17 said:

Let me get this right.

So because this is (indirectly) funded by the EU it must be wrong so I SHOULD drink drive?

It's your duty as a patriotic British man. If you aren't in your car and swigging a bottle of gin in the next two minutes, it's as good as shooting the Queen.

[jurbie]

This isn't EU bashing, all governments fund NGO's to lobby the government for stuff the government wants to do but needs an excuse for. Where do you think 'charities' like Brake get their funding from? It doesn't strike me as terribly democratic or a good use of public money.

[m8rky]

Amazed it has taken this long after the tobacco ban for the EU to start this. Very Niemoller-esque.