Vettel considered leaving F1...

Vettel considered leaving F1...

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LDN

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8,971 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Apparently; he didn't like the lack of noise (fair enough) and the fact that the cars are slower (despite more torque and less aero making them more of a beast to drive...)

Great driver; top bloke; can't help but feel that this new era will never gel with him. And that is perhaps what got his cogs ticking...

From PlanetF1:

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9562173/Vettel-C...


Inertiatic

1,040 posts

196 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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His car might be slower. The mercs are doing OK compared to the last era aren't they?

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

148 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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agreed.

The mark of a true great is someone that can keep it together when things are against them.

I've heard nothing other than moaning like a spoilt bh this year.

yes he is better than the 'haters' give him credit for (me included) but he is not a rounded driver, he is very sensitive to bad things - a bit like Jenson.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

188 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Gaz. said:
If he hasn't enjoyed this year in the RB10, he is really going to hate next year.
hehe

Jasandjules

70,412 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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It is gong to interesting to see how he handles the prancing pony, especially if they are still not nice to drive.

S0 What

3,358 posts

178 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Pixelpeep7r said:
agreed.

The mark of a true great is someone that can keep it together when things are against them.

I've heard nothing other than moaning like a spoilt bh this year.

yes he is better than the 'haters' give him credit for (me included) but he is not a rounded driver, he is very sensitive to bad things - a bit like Jenson.
I'm with you on the JB comparison, next year will be telling although i said the same about this year and TBH he hasn't looked that special but then we don't know the full story, he really might have just inherated Webers bad luck?

confucuis

1,307 posts

130 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I'm almost sure the BBC said that at Brazil the cars were beating the qualifying record set there but were still off the ultimate lap that was set by Barrachelo during a free practice at some point. It must be but into context that this is only the first year of these cars what will they be like at the end of next year?

LDN

Original Poster:

8,971 posts

209 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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confucuis said:
I'm almost sure the BBC said that at Brazil the cars were beating the qualifying record set there but were still off the ultimate lap that was set by Barrachelo during a free practice at some point. It must be but into context that this is only the first year of these cars what will they be like at the end of next year?
Indeed; these cars may well end up being faster on a regular basis.

Jasandjules

70,412 posts

235 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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S0 What said:
I'm with you on the JB comparison, next year will be telling although i said the same about this year and TBH he hasn't looked that special but then we don't know the full story, he really might have just inherated Webers bad luck?
I think you need to wait a couple of years, as next year the car might be poor still, but a couple of years to allow time to get the car "right" and then see if he is fighting at the front.

BigBen

11,749 posts

236 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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confucuis said:
I'm almost sure the BBC said that at Brazil the cars were beating the qualifying record set there but were still off the ultimate lap that was set by Barrachelo during a free practice at some point. It must be but into context that this is only the first year of these cars what will they be like at the end of next year?
I think they said that times were faster than last year's qualifying times which were set in the wet. The Barrichello time was from some years previous.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

180 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Going by the actual quotes I think he has a valid point, but then again I felt that Horner did too when he was talking about the engine costs and possibly going back to V8s. Problem is anything that comes from Vettel or Horner is automatically dismissed as them "throwing toys out of their pram".

For me F1 has lost something with these rule changes and despite a great battle between Nico and Lewis I still wouldn't count this year as a great success for the sport. I think the lack of noise, the cars becoming lardy and way more technically complex is part of the reason.


Jasandjules

70,412 posts

235 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Oddly I like the engine noise, we can hear the tyres squealing away etc..

And this season has been fairly exciting to me, quite a few races with awesome scraps all through the field.

LDN

Original Poster:

8,971 posts

209 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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VolvoT5 said:
Going by the actual quotes I think he has a valid point, but then again I felt that Horner did too when he was talking about the engine costs and possibly going back to V8s. Problem is anything that comes from Vettel or Horner is automatically dismissed as them "throwing toys out of their pram".

For me F1 has lost something with these rule changes and despite a great battle between Nico and Lewis I still wouldn't count this year as a great success for the sport. I think the lack of noise, the cars becoming lardy and way more technically complex is part of the reason.
Lardy cars?? The cars have more torque, less aero; how can these be bad things?? These cars are harder to drive and the drivers right foot now has a lot more responsibility... talk about technology all you want; but these cars are more difficult to drive; by all accounts. And that's a good thing IMO.

RemaL

24,995 posts

240 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Oddly I like the engine noise, we can hear the tyres squealing away etc..

And this season has been fairly exciting to me, quite a few races with awesome scraps all through the field.
I got to agree. At the start of the season I thought WTF about the noise but I've come to enjoy it and the whole season.


Cant wait until the 2015 starts and see how different teams and drivers get on

Pumajay

1,055 posts

210 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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If he considered quitting after 1 rough year than he isnt half the champion his 4 titles show him to be.

The mark of a true champ is to push through even when times are tough, the way Micheal schumacher did when he left Bennetton to the under performing Ferrari, the way hopefully Lewis Hamilton has with jumping ship from Mclaren to a Mercedes team who were in need of some speed.

If Seb is to go down the with the likes of Senna, Prost, Shumacher, Lauda, etc he needs to show what he is really made of at Ferrari, just in the same way that Lewis needs to try and dominate F1 over the next couple of years.

Bonefish Blues

28,819 posts

229 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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RemaL said:
Jasandjules said:
Oddly I like the engine noise, we can hear the tyres squealing away etc..

And this season has been fairly exciting to me, quite a few races with awesome scraps all through the field.
I got to agree. At the start of the season I thought WTF about the noise but I've come to enjoy it and the whole season.


Cant wait until the 2015 starts and see how different teams and drivers get on
And another in the camp

AlexS

1,559 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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BigBen said:
confucuis said:
I'm almost sure the BBC said that at Brazil the cars were beating the qualifying record set there but were still off the ultimate lap that was set by Barrachelo during a free practice at some point. It must be but into context that this is only the first year of these cars what will they be like at the end of next year?
I think they said that times were faster than last year's qualifying times which were set in the wet. The Barrichello time was from some years previous.
The top four cars on the grid all went faster than the previous record qualifying time which had been set by Barrichello in 2004.

Z3MCJez

531 posts

178 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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AlexS said:
The top four cars on the grid all went faster than the previous record qualifying time which had been set by Barrichello in 2004.
Still a bit misleading with the new (smoother) tarmac.

Jez

MG CHRIS

9,149 posts

173 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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Z3MCJez said:
AlexS said:
The top four cars on the grid all went faster than the previous record qualifying time which had been set by Barrichello in 2004.
Still a bit misleading with the new (smoother) tarmac.

Jez
Exactly and I still don't like the sound they sound crap compared to proper turbo charged race engines.
Im slowly turning of f1 used to have to watch every race since I was a kid these days I only watch it if I aint doing nothing have missed a few races and haven't felt like ive missed something.

BritishRacinGrin

25,143 posts

166 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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ash73 said:
Seb versus Kimi in a Ferrari with a sharper front-end could be interesting...
Based on Vettel's penchant for blown diffusers and very light tyre use, I'd volunteer that he's a driver who likes his rear end to be pretty well stuck down. Compare and contrast, if you will, Kimi...