F1 'fans' booing drivers

F1 'fans' booing drivers

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patmahe

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5,819 posts

210 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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It's one thing to have a favourite, it's another to jeer and boo a rival. There are 22 drivers who provide entertainment to the masses week in, week out at considerable risk to themselves, I think all of them should be at least respected.

I didn't like it when it happened to Vetted and I don't like to see it happening to Rosberg. I thought F1 fans were better than this, it appears not. Shame on those that booed.

Just my two cents.

smn159

13,311 posts

223 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I tend to disagree. Respect is earned, not bestowed automatically and if people feel that Rosberg has behaved inappropriately then they're entitled to show their disapproval.



Edited by smn159 on Monday 8th September 22:08

mattikake

5,073 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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It was clear from the cheering from the "fans" at Monza who their favourite is. Made me chuckle.

John D.

18,373 posts

215 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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I'm not a fan of the podium interviews instead of traditional press conference. Encourages the pantomime aspect to come out and the drivers never say anything more than 'thanks to team/fans are so great here'.

Derek Smith

46,321 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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It has gone on for years. I can remember a number of incidents, although in single figures, where a driver has been booed.

Mostly there is a lot of humour in the booing.

Senna was booed at Brands once. He thoroughly enjoyed it.

He and Mansell were seeing who could go through the then new speed trap on the top straight. It was cleverly positioned just at the start of the braking zone for Paddock. One went, then the other, then the other until Mansell went through still accelerating and only just managed to avoid a crash at Paddock. A slow hand clap started and we chanted 'Senna'. He stood on a small wall in the pits, right in front of the grandstands, and shook his head. There was jeering, booing, laughter and applause. Good fun.

I've seen drivers booed when on the podium, normally after taking out another driver with bad driving.

So nothing new here in fact.

As an earlier poster asks: How else are fans to express their feelings at the time.

The applause isn't a right.

Matt Sketch

162 posts

140 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Personally I see it as a good thing because it shows emotional engagement in a sport which, from the outside at least, can been seen as too clinical and devoid of personalities. For a sport to engage with as broad a range as possible, it needs it villains as well as it heroes.

We moan about drivers not being able to speak out, why the hell shouldn’t the fans be able to speak out? Given the waning numbers F1 is suffering accepting things like this rather than deriding them could be a positive as it helps to inject the passion back into the sport.

DonkeyApple

57,903 posts

175 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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patmahe said:
It's one thing to have a favourite, it's another to jeer and boo a rival. There are 22 drivers who provide entertainment to the masses week in, week out at considerable risk to themselves, I think all of them should be at least respected.

I didn't like it when it happened to Vetted and I don't like to see it happening to Rosberg. I thought F1 fans were better than this, it appears not. Shame on those that booed.

Just my two cents.
I'm generally in agreement with you. Outside of the children's pantomime I find it best reserved for the more low rent folk or very extreme situations where it is in essence a severe understatement. I tend to also find the 'we are the fans you must respect me' or 'I own a part of you' ethos just a little bit frightening.

But let's not forget this was Italy. They are terribly over emotional and sport is very much a pantomime and it's quite an infectious state. Frankly, I'm more surprised to hear them cheering a black man than booing a German.

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

193 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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DonkeyApple said:
I'm generally in agreement with you. Outside of the children's pantomime I find it best reserved for the more low rent folk or very extreme situations where it is in essence a severe understatement. I tend to also find the 'we are the fans you must respect me' or 'I own a part of you' ethos just a little bit frightening.

But let's not forget this was Italy. They are terribly over emotional and sport is very much a pantomime and it's quite an infectious state. Frankly, I'm more surprised to hear them cheering a black man than booing a German.
Apparently cheering black men in Italy is an old tradtion, haven't you seen Gladiator?
Actually if he was the better driver i tifosi would cheer a Martian - I fear your comment says much more about you than the Italians, hope I'm wrong

Derek Smith

46,321 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Rosberg has evidently said that the booing isn't nice:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29125367

Not the best way to deal with it. Just let it go. They'll soon get bored without encouragement.


DonkeyApple

57,903 posts

175 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Trophybloo said:
DonkeyApple said:
I'm generally in agreement with you. Outside of the children's pantomime I find it best reserved for the more low rent folk or very extreme situations where it is in essence a severe understatement. I tend to also find the 'we are the fans you must respect me' or 'I own a part of you' ethos just a little bit frightening.

But let's not forget this was Italy. They are terribly over emotional and sport is very much a pantomime and it's quite an infectious state. Frankly, I'm more surprised to hear them cheering a black man than booing a German.
Apparently cheering black men in Italy is an old tradtion, haven't you seen Gladiator?
Actually if he was the better driver i tifosi would cheer a Martian - I fear your comment says much more about you than the Italians, hope I'm wrong
Hmm. I'm married to an Italian, have Italian children and spend half my time in Italy. Like most southern Med cultures they have not quite embraced multiculturalism like we have, putting it mildly. biggrin

HTP99

23,143 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Derek Smith said:
Rosberg has evidently said that the booing isn't nice:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29125367

Not the best way to deal with it. Just let it go. They'll soon get bored without encouragement.
Diddums, get thicker skin and ignore it or turn it round to your advantage and make a joke out of it, that'll soon stop it.

Likes Fast Cars

2,884 posts

171 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Yes but the Italians make the others look thoroughly uncivilised laugh

Seriously though was it only Italians who were at the race and booing? I suspect there were plenty of other nationalities there.

simes43

196 posts

239 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Derek Smith said:
It has gone on for years. I can remember a number of incidents, although in single figures, where a driver has been booed.

Mostly there is a lot of humour in the booing.

Senna was booed at Brands once. He thoroughly enjoyed it.

He and Mansell were seeing who could go through the then new speed trap on the top straight. It was cleverly positioned just at the start of the braking zone for Paddock. One went, then the other, then the other until Mansell went through still accelerating and only just managed to avoid a crash at Paddock. A slow hand clap started and we chanted 'Senna'. He stood on a small wall in the pits, right in front of the grandstands, and shook his head. There was jeering, booing, laughter and applause. Good fun.

I've seen drivers booed when on the podium, normally after taking out another driver with bad driving.

So nothing new here in fact.

As an earlier poster asks: How else are fans to express their feelings at the time.

The applause isn't a right.
They booed Senna at Silverstone too. Sad.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

188 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Spectators pay good money to go and view a race, if they want to voice their displeasure of a certain driver and his antics it should be allowed.

I see no problem with it.

Lucas Ayde

3,694 posts

174 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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What displeased them about Rosberg's drive at Monza then, to warrant the booing?

He made a couple of mistakes at the chicane and got punished by losing the lead. Still, he started second on the grid and finished second, well clear of third place. Hardly worthy of a torrent of boos.

LordGrover

33,652 posts

218 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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TBF, he is guilty of being German.

Some Gump

12,835 posts

192 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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IMO, booing on the podium is far more football than F1. This can never be a good thing.

HTP99

23,143 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Lucas Ayde said:
What displeased them about Rosberg's drive at Monza then, to warrant the booing?
Nothing, however like last year with Vettel; Rosberg is now this years Pantomime Dame.

deadslow

8,217 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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I don't like booing at F1, especially after such a tremendous race.

SpudLink

6,362 posts

198 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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John D. said:
I'm not a fan of the podium interviews instead of traditional press conference. Encourages the pantomime aspect to come out and the drivers never say anything more than 'thanks to team/fans are so great here'.
I agree. I would rather a professional journalist ask the questions in front of a camera crew, rather than 'celebrity' interviewers (Eddie Jordan) playing to the crowd.

LordGrover said:
TBF, he is guilty of being German.
I think we now have a tradition that a German leading the championship becomes the pantomime villain, and get's booed when on the podium.
smile





Edited by SpudLink on Tuesday 9th September 15:46