Youngest ever F1 driver.

Youngest ever F1 driver.

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Pan Pan

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1,116 posts

133 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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looks like a 16 year old is set to be the youngest driver to compete in F1. He is currently driving in F3, should be interesting to see hew he get on.

Pan Pan

Original Poster:

1,116 posts

133 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Ps His 17th birthday is coming up soon so he will be a little older by the time he starts racing in F1.

oldaudi

1,384 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I know they all have to start somewhere, but he was karting just over a year ago (according to the report on the radio this morning).
Moving to F1 so quickly and having to adjust to the way the F1 cars drive could cause accidents for him and other drivers.

But if hes proved what he can do in other forms of racing then why not give him a chance I say. Good luck to him

The Moose

23,048 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Good luck to him indeed - age is just a number, however maturity and decision making may not be quite up to scratch. I guess a rather steep learning curve ahead for him!

I wonder if it's family name/money that's got him in?

Pan Pan

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133 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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With the cash F1 cars cost I could not imagine that they would chance giving him a seat if they didn't think he was entirely up to the job.
As in most walks of life, some work hard to be good, others will be permanently useless, or mediocre and only get a seat because of the cash they bring `into' a team. but someone who is a natural, young, and with sharper reflexes than the average intake of young highly talented drivers could do well. Should be interesting to watch his performance.

julian64

14,317 posts

260 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Every single person on the planet, with very few exceptions have the same speed reflexes. Its a constant of the way you are built.


Sorry, just need to get that off my chest.

smifffymoto

4,728 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Probably true. Reflexes are not as sharp the older you get.

DickyC

51,228 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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julian64 said:
Every single person on the planet, with very few exceptions have the same speed reflexes. Its a constant of the way you are built.
Every one except me, then.

An item on a TV programme to test reflexes had Jenson Button as its guinea pig. I reckon his reflexes were four times as fast as mine. That'll be me in the tyre wall. And it's not an age thing, I've always had slow reactions.

Pan Pan

Original Poster:

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133 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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julian64 said:
Every single person on the planet, with very few exceptions have the same speed reflexes. Its a constant of the way you are built.


Sorry, just need to get that off my chest.
Not sure what you mean by speed reflexes, I am talking about the way different people react to rapidly changing, sometimes instantly changing scenarios,and the intelligence of their response to a given situation. Some seem to be able to adapt instantly, where others regardless of age, gender, background etc take seconds longer to deal with a rapid change of situation,
Fighter pilots would be a case in point, does anyone really believe the average joe off the street, would be able to deal with the complexity of flying a modern jet fighter, whilst at the same time making rapid tactical decisions? My guess would be, probably not.

aww999

2,069 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I read/saw something that explained that the best drivers have very similar reflex speed to an average person. The difference in apparent reaction time is due to the expert driver detecting (for example) oversteer at a much earlier point in the breakaway than an average person.

Pan Pan

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133 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Some people have rapid response times, some are just plain slow. having watched some kids playing a bash the rat game in an amusement park, age does not seem to be a factor, it seems that some are quick, with rapid response times and others hopelessly slow.

cb31

1,173 posts

142 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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julian64 said:
Every single person on the planet, with very few exceptions have the same speed reflexes. Its a constant of the way you are built.


Sorry, just need to get that off my chest.
I'm not having that biggrin

My gran compared to me compared to 18 year old me? No comparison and I'm no F1 star. Even amongst similar age groups some people are just slow to react to things, maybe the physical reflexes are similar speeds but the mental side to reacting to them aren't the same.

CAPP0

19,838 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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The Moose said:
I wonder if it's family name/money that's got him in?
Noooo, I'm absolutely certain that he has done this all off his own bat without revealing his true name/identity until now! tongue out

It's not what you know…..

epom

12,190 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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If good enough you are old enough ?? Amazing if true, will need a lot of training for all those G forces I would imagine. Good luck to him.

CBR JGWRR

6,558 posts

155 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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The really daft thing is, being Dutch, he wont be allowed to drive a road car on a road until he is 18. IIRC that is.

scubadude

2,618 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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aww999 said:
I read/saw something that explained that the best drivers have very similar reflex speed to an average person. The difference in apparent reaction time is due to the expert driver detecting (for example) oversteer at a much earlier point in the breakaway than an average person.
Yes and anticipation, top drivers know when the slide will start because they either initiated or or allowed it, when it catches them out they spin same as a norm- although their practice can often save it from being terminal. With practice many people can greatly improve their apparent reaction time but its not the same as the underlying reflexes being measurably quicker.

Petrus1983

9,430 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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julian64 said:
Every single person on the planet, with very few exceptions have the same speed reflexes. Its a constant of the way you are built.


Sorry, just need to get that off my chest.
Are you sure? I remember my grandfather showing me how you could 'train' reflexes to work faster, and watching things like speedway their reflexes are obviously ridiculously fast - but this could be down to the training aspect.

julian64

14,317 posts

260 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Petrus1983 said:
julian64 said:
Every single person on the planet, with very few exceptions have the same speed reflexes. Its a constant of the way you are built.


Sorry, just need to get that off my chest.
Are you sure? I remember my grandfather showing me how you could 'train' reflexes to work faster, and watching things like speedway their reflexes are obviously ridiculously fast - but this could be down to the training aspect.
You can train your brain, but not the speed of the wires that connect it to your fingers. The brain training is to do with shortening the pathway of activity to an almost subconcious level rather than using your slower, higher interlect pathways. Bit like learning to juggle

entropy

5,565 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Pan Pan said:
looks like a 16 year old is set to be the youngest driver to compete in F1. He is currently driving in F3, should be interesting to see hew he get on.
The likes of Senna and Mansell did karting, Formula Ford, F3, F1; Gilles Villeneuve stood out in Formula Atlantic with minimal car experience.

No data acquisition let alone telemetry which would have been the seat of your pants, no simulators, inferior diet and fitness regime, etc, etc...

Dr Egbert

9 posts

122 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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lol if i did a formula 1 when i was that old it would not be good to watch or see!