Tom Clarkson going too far?
Discussion
Is he right in telling Niki Lauda what he should think?
'I think you'll agree Niki'
Will he?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/28188260
Where does TC come from?
http://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/tom...
'I think you'll agree Niki'
Will he?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/28188260
Where does TC come from?
http://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/tom...
oops
It's just I thought the beeb should be reporting on events rather than trying to tell someone what he should or should not agree.
The two other questions
What caused Kimi's car to jump as it re-entered the track
and
Why is the armco facing the direction it does - ok ok there's big bridge but could it be curved earlier?
left unanswered
As you were
edited due to unwarranted typo
It's just I thought the beeb should be reporting on events rather than trying to tell someone what he should or should not agree.
The two other questions
What caused Kimi's car to jump as it re-entered the track
and
Why is the armco facing the direction it does - ok ok there's big bridge but could it be curved earlier?
left unanswered
As you were
edited due to unwarranted typo
Edited by saaby93 on Friday 11th July 14:31
saaby93 said:
oops
It's just I thought the beeb should be reporting on evenst rather than trying to tell someone what he should or should not agree.
The two other questions
What caused Nikis car to jump as it re-entered the track
and
Why is the armco facing the direction it does - ok ok there's big bridge but could it be curved earlier?
left unanswered
As you were
I think you mean Kimi. Niki wasn't driving.It's just I thought the beeb should be reporting on evenst rather than trying to tell someone what he should or should not agree.
The two other questions
What caused Nikis car to jump as it re-entered the track
and
Why is the armco facing the direction it does - ok ok there's big bridge but could it be curved earlier?
left unanswered
As you were
There is a bump. Most drivers walk the track ahead of races to see on track and off track nuances. Kimi is well known for not doing them or not doing them very much.
Vaud said:
I think you mean Kimi. Niki wasn't driving.
There is a bump. Most drivers walk the track ahead of races to see on track and off track nuances. Kimi is well known for not doing them or not doing them very much.
Absolutely. And yes, the barrier needed to be replaced. Didn't Tom edit F1Racing or similar? But you don't need to be a Charlie Whiting to realise that a barrier that has absorbed a force of around 50 x 700 KGs needs to be replaced.There is a bump. Most drivers walk the track ahead of races to see on track and off track nuances. Kimi is well known for not doing them or not doing them very much.
Seemed odd to me that the man who had one of the most horrific accidents was saying what he said. . . I think the article the beeb did was a good plan, but the tone was a little patronising towards NL.
Perhaps an interview including Sir Jackie would have filled the hour nicely. . .perhaps NL just got bored having to waiting for one of his cars to win !
Perhaps an interview including Sir Jackie would have filled the hour nicely. . .perhaps NL just got bored having to waiting for one of his cars to win !
rubystone said:
Absolutely. And yes, the barrier needed to be replaced. Didn't Tom edit F1Racing or similar? But you don't need to be a Charlie Whiting to realise that a barrier that has absorbed a force of around 50 x 700 KGs needs to be replaced.
Of course. I struggle to see NL's argument. Looked at logically, 100% of the accidents over the weekend where there was a high impact speed into the barriers happened at just that spot.To use a more sensible argument, there was a specific reason the Ferrari went into the barrier there: the high 'kerb'. The kerb was still there and a car might, during the race, rejoin the circuit at the self-same spot, on the fastest bit of the circuit.
I like Lauda's comments at races but I think a lot of their attraction is that he doesn't always think things through.
maffski said:
Niki's point was that the chance of another big impact at that spot in the barrier during this race was low enough that the repair could be put off until after the race.
I didn't see anything in the BBC clip addressing that.
Me neither. Just at the end he said "I think you'll agree with me Niki that we had to replace the barrier" when he made no argument for it the rest of the clip I didn't see anything in the BBC clip addressing that.
It's obvious they had to, however remote the possibility of another accident, because if something happened there again and there was an injury/death we'd have numerous investigations and possibly lose Silverstone from the calendar.
So, TC is very suddenly part of BBC TV's F1 presenting team. Where did he come from?
Knowing the BBC and other visual media are riddled with nepotism and with a name like Clarkson, I wonder...
The very few occasions I've seen of him he adds precious little to the show. As though it's merely another job only and no enthusiasm for the subject at all.
Maybe I've missed something here but, if he never appears again covering F1 on our screens I for one will not miss him.
Knowing the BBC and other visual media are riddled with nepotism and with a name like Clarkson, I wonder...
The very few occasions I've seen of him he adds precious little to the show. As though it's merely another job only and no enthusiasm for the subject at all.
Maybe I've missed something here but, if he never appears again covering F1 on our screens I for one will not miss him.
Vaud said:
I think you mean Kimi. Niki wasn't driving.
There is a bump. Most drivers walk the track ahead of races to see on track and off track nuances. Kimi is well known for not doing them or not doing them very much.
If he failed to do that pre-race track walk then that is a very poor show. Most uncool for the so called Iceman who at one time was one of my favourites. Long time ago now. There is a bump. Most drivers walk the track ahead of races to see on track and off track nuances. Kimi is well known for not doing them or not doing them very much.
Well known for not doing that you say! Very poor show indeed and explains why he kept his momentum and took off there when trying to regain the track at speed.
Who is Duncan Stephen?
http://duncanstephen.co.uk/bbc-f1-the-verdict/
'BBC TV’s new pitlane reporter, Tom Clarkson, is yet to convince me. His contributions have largely been banal statements of the obvious.'
http://duncanstephen.co.uk/bbc-f1-the-verdict/
'BBC TV’s new pitlane reporter, Tom Clarkson, is yet to convince me. His contributions have largely been banal statements of the obvious.'
saaby93 said:
Who is Duncan Stephen?
http://duncanstephen.co.uk/bbc-f1-the-verdict/
'BBC TV’s new pitlane reporter, Tom Clarkson, is yet to convince me. His contributions have largely been banal statements of the obvious.'
Clearly clueless.http://duncanstephen.co.uk/bbc-f1-the-verdict/
'BBC TV’s new pitlane reporter, Tom Clarkson, is yet to convince me. His contributions have largely been banal statements of the obvious.'
saaby93 said:
Who is Duncan Stephen?
http://duncanstephen.co.uk/bbc-f1-the-verdict/
'BBC TV’s new pitlane reporter, Tom Clarkson, is yet to convince me. His contributions have largely been banal statements of the obvious.'
http://duncanstephen.co.uk/bbc-f1-the-verdict/
'BBC TV’s new pitlane reporter, Tom Clarkson, is yet to convince me. His contributions have largely been banal statements of the obvious.'
Duncan Stephen said:
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The BBC’s Ben Edwards is the best motorsport commentator in the business. He mixes sharp observations with pants-on-fire excitement. Co-commentator David Coulthard is not as much of a natural talker, but his more recent racing experience allows him to offer fresher insight than Martin Brundle.
Where the BBC’s race coverage is now let down is in the fact that Gary Anderson is no longer in the pitlane.
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No idea who this Guy Stephen is but, he's summed up my feelings about the recent changes in BBC's F1 coverage. The BBC’s Ben Edwards is the best motorsport commentator in the business. He mixes sharp observations with pants-on-fire excitement. Co-commentator David Coulthard is not as much of a natural talker, but his more recent racing experience allows him to offer fresher insight than Martin Brundle.
Where the BBC’s race coverage is now let down is in the fact that Gary Anderson is no longer in the pitlane.
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"Pants on fire excitement" ... yes, often too over the top for this viewer and "best" ? Debatable.
Gary Anderson is a huge loss for the BBC's F1 viewers. Who made that decision to no longer use him? Bad move. Sadly missed by me and no doubt many others who appreciate that F1 is not simply about the drivers and who's quickest.
Back on track ... Who is this newbie Clarkson anyway?
I think T Clarkson does a great job. No strong regional accent and pronounces his vowels when commenting . ( sadly lacking in so many tv " presenters " ) For sure he is knowledgable on F1 and it's intricacies and blends well with the rest of the team . Ben Edwards & DC are the best F1 race commenting partnership in the business right now....long may it continue.
MGJohn said:
Gary Anderson is a huge loss for the BBC's F1 viewers. Who made that decision to no longer use him? Bad move. Sadly missed by me and no doubt many others who appreciate that F1 is not simply about the drivers and who's quickest.
Story is as follows.Early this year/late last year
BBC told Gary they were going to cut back on technical features. Said the viewers of F1 don't care about the technical side (WHAT THE f
k!)GA told them that's not true and a mistake. They should reconsider
GA went home to think about things. Over a short time he decided no point in carrying on with BBC then if all they focus on is drivers
In the meantime BBC decided they didn't need GA and before GA could write a letter, they called him in and terminated his contract.
Hence this year on BBC there has been NO in depth tech pieces. They've never even explained split turbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuBB2F6IutQ
SkyF1 did a short vid that makes complete sense
BBC haven't even done justice to explaining FRICS yet!
Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 20th July 11:30
Polome said:
I think T Clarkson does a great job. No strong regional accent and pronounces his vowels when commenting . ( sadly lacking in so many tv " presenters " ) For sure
What is it with 'for sure' and F1
Anyhow did anyone see T Clarkson had a full pitlane slot yesterday to say ....
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