Did the stewards investigate the wong incident at Monaco?

Did the stewards investigate the wong incident at Monaco?

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mikevernon

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5 posts

243 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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My personal opinion is that Rosberg's trip up the escape road looked deliberate, especially since he was going so slowly at the end that he could have easily taken the corner. But I do accept that it was not 100% clear cut.

But what baffles me is that he apparently then reversed back down the escape road towards the track, an action which was certainly both dangerous and deliberate and one for which a penalty is surely mandatory?

The fact that he didn't receive a penalty makes me wonder whether the stewards looked at it or were even aware of this part of the incident.

I didn't see the reversing incident on the BBC coverage and so far I can't find any footage online, Can anybody post a link please?

snorkel sucker

2,663 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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yes.

no.

maybe.

who cares.

the stewards made their decision.

fish finger butties for lunch maybe ... I wonder if anyone did ever land on the moon ...

garycat

4,561 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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I haven't seen any footage of him reversing either, but when Lewis passes him he is definitely closer to the track then when her goes up the escape road.

StevieBee

13,372 posts

261 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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With regards to the incident itself, I'm of the view that it was a genuine mistake but one upon which he manipulated to his advantage.

I think this reversing issue was discussed on Sky. Remarkably, there is no regulation that forbids the reversing of a car onto the track, only if the action endangers other cars and as there were no cars approaching at the time, no foul!

Reverse gears have only recently been mandatory on safety grounds so I guess that outlawing their use would be somewhat counter-productive.

anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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StevieBee said:
With regards to the incident itself, I'm of the view that it was a genuine mistake but one upon which he manipulated to his advantage.

I think this reversing issue was discussed on Sky. Remarkably, there is no regulation that forbids the reversing of a car onto the track, only if the action endangers other cars and as there were no cars approaching at the time, no foul!

Reverse gears have only recently been mandatory on safety grounds so I guess that outlawing their use would be somewhat counter-productive.
What do you mean by recently? Functioning reverse gears have been mandatory for many, many years, in most forms of racing. They were made mandatory in F1 in the sixties.

StevieBee

13,372 posts

261 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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REALIST123 said:
What do you mean by recently? Functioning reverse gears have been mandatory for many, many years, in most forms of racing. They were made mandatory in F1 in the sixties.
You're right - 1968 they became mandatory. I thought that the existence of a reverse gear was until recently optional and many teams chose not to use them to save weight.

BTW...I have had a quick look at the tech regs and the only place where it is not permitted for the reverse gear to be used is in the pit lane.

zac510

5,546 posts

212 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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I suppose there are lots of scenarios where a quick put into reverse will clear the yellow flag faster and more safely than marshal action. (ie nobody needs to go onto a live track).

chris_w

2,565 posts

265 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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StevieBee said:
You're right - 1968 they became mandatory. I thought that the existence of a reverse gear was until recently optional and many teams chose not to use them to save weight.

BTW...I have had a quick look at the tech regs and the only place where it is not permitted for the reverse gear to be used is in the pit lane.
Going off on a slight tangent but I wonder if the electric motors can be used to reverse the car - if so you could ditch a gear from the gearbox and save some weight surely?

Galileo

3,147 posts

224 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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It's all a conspiracy so that OUR darling gorgeous little sweet lovely Lewis can't win the championship, but gets beaten by that bd German!

I blame Schumacher. Some how. Not sure how, but its bound to be his fault cos he's GERMAN. It's a Conspiracy. I bet that bd Ecclestone turns out to be German.mad
silly

scubadude

2,618 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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chris_w said:
Going off on a slight tangent but I wonder if the electric motors can be used to reverse the car - if so you could ditch a gear from the gearbox and save some weight surely?
It would be pretty unlikely that wasn't legal and missed by everyone but its a good idea- not sure how the e-motors can move the vehicle in the opposite direction to the IC engine though, aren't they both the same side of the gearbox, at the least it would require another clutch- which is probably heavier than a reverse gear?

chris_w

2,565 posts

265 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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scubadude said:
not sure how the e-motors can move the vehicle in the opposite direction to the IC engine though, aren't they both the same side of the gearbox
Yes, I hadn't considered that - the electric motors assist the ICE rather than run in parallel don't they. So a LaFerrari configuration rather than a Porsche 918/Macca P1 setup which would allow electric-only drive.

I wondered why the phone hadn't just exploded with excited F1 engineers thanking me for my brainwave.... smile

007 VXR

64,187 posts

193 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Galileo said:
It's all a conspiracy so that OUR darling gorgeous little sweet lovely Lewis can't win the championship, but gets beaten by that bd German!

I blame Schumacher. Some how. Not sure how, but its bound to be his fault cos he's GERMAN. It's a Conspiracy. I bet that bd Ecclestone turns out to be German.mad
silly
biglaugh

Scuffers

20,887 posts

280 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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chris_w said:
Going off on a slight tangent but I wonder if the electric motors can be used to reverse the car - if so you could ditch a gear from the gearbox and save some weight surely?
No point, the elec motor is geared to the crankshaft, so it still goes though the gearbox.


DanielSan

19,093 posts

173 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Are the 2 threads alresdy running on this not enough for you?

heebeegeetee

28,950 posts

254 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Galileo said:
I bet that bd Ecclestone turns out to be German.mad
silly
He might, if it keeps him out of a German jail., smile