Did Nico ruin Lewis lap on purpose?

Did Nico ruin Lewis lap on purpose?

Poll: Did Nico ruin Lewis lap on purpose?

Total Members Polled: 516

Yes, a cynical move: 43%
No, it was just an innocent error: 22%
Maybe, but I cant be sure: 35%
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mollytherocker

Original Poster:

14,370 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Ok, so its been done to death. You have heard the arguments and details.

What do you think?

CharlesAL

532 posts

130 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Yeah but I believe Lewis will be over it by the time he gets into the car in Canada, one of his best tracks along with Hungaroring, and Nico won't have a chance.

TheArchitect

1,238 posts

185 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Nah, he looked like he was having a small flap in the run off area with the wheel which he wouldn't of been doing if he planned it.

wanacoop

1,249 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I feel that he made the most of a mistake, a quick 'dick-dastardly' brain wave after the genuine cock up.

GAjon

3,780 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Yes, not premeditated, but locked up on what might have been the pole lap anyway, binned it down the escape road to bring out the yellows.

Managed 70 odd laps the next day, under extreme pressure without a problem.

I think pole was his anyway and tainted the result unnecesserily.

mollytherocker

Original Poster:

14,370 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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GAjon said:
Yes, not premeditated, but locked up on what might have been the pole lap anyway, binned it down the escape road to bring out the yellows.

Managed 70 odd laps the next day, under extreme pressure without a problem.

I think pole was his anyway and tainted the result unnecesserily.
Thats a YES!

m444ttb

3,163 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I think he made a genuine error. But I have this feeling he may have made the most of it. I'm kinda impressed if he actually did. Impressive presence of mind.

Edited by m444ttb on Tuesday 27th May 21:07

lauda

3,639 posts

213 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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According to Simon Hughes's race report for Motorsport, he reckons pretty much every other driver in the paddock thinks Nico went off intentionally.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

177 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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m444ttb said:
I think he made a genuine error. But I have this feeling he may have made the most of it. I'm kinda impressed if he actually did. Impressive presence of mind.
Quick German thinking, we haf done it before smile

woof

8,456 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I can see a place drop compulsory penalty for anyone creating a yellow flag whilst on pole at Monaco.
I don't actually know if it was intentional - but it's such an opportunity to control the race. Needs to be ruled out in the future.


gaz1234

5,233 posts

225 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Who cares

Red555

43 posts

127 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Still can't be 100% about the initial lock up but based on the following I'm leaning more towards it being intentional:
1. He had driven that track, in that car, for at least a couple of hours in free practice - this included several flying laps - without any issues.
2. He drove faultlessly on race day, sometimes under a lot of pressure from Hamilton.
3. Nico is far from being a second rate driver, yet he hit the brakes 3 car lengths further down the road than was optimal for that corner (for a quali lap). I'm all for late braking to make up some time, but you can't make any time up by going even slightly deep into that corner at the expense of late braking.

Notwithstanding this, I'm in total agreement with many that reversing back to the track edge was cynical at best knowing where Hamilton was. But what about the rest of the field? This is not just about Hamilton when so many others deserved a full Q3 session given the importance of grid position in Monaco.

supertouring

2,228 posts

239 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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The whole formula is about using the rules to your advantage, they do it all the time with the cars.

I do not think it was intentional, I do not think he wants to win like that.

I think Lewis would have come across better if he had manned-up and showed that it did not affect him (on the surface at least), not shaking the winners hand is bad form.


Jasandjules

70,412 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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To me he is just not the sort of person who would do such a thing.

I feel he just overcooked it and managed to avoid a crash.

BUT I am torn because loads of F1 drivers seem to be saying it was deliberate, and I think they ought to know best.

Terminator X

15,929 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Did anyone else end up there at the weekend nono

TX.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

177 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Jasandjules said:
To me he is just not the sort of person who would do such a thing.

I feel he just overcooked it and managed to avoid a crash.

BUT I am torn because loads of F1 drivers seem to be saying it was deliberate, and I think they ought to know best.
This ^

badboyburt

2,043 posts

183 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Yep on purpose but im sure he was thankful for all the redbull he had delivered.

Emeye

9,775 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Brundle mentioned something about Hamilton using a power setting he should not have in Spain and apologising to Nico, so this may have been his revenge.

What is that all about?

DHB07

80 posts

127 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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What's interesting and what people seem to be forgetting is that, IF it was a genuine cock up, then that's twice in four races that he's buckles and made a large mistake on his final quali lap.

IF it was accidental Lewis should take note.

If I were Lewis, I'd turn this round and mention this in the media; "Well Nico obviously can't handle the pressure of me being behind him and chasing down his lap times. That's twice he's buckled and made pretty massive mistake under my pressure in quali. I don't have any pressure. Yada yada yada"

DHB07

80 posts

127 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Emeye said:
Brundle mentioned something about Hamilton using a power setting he should not have in Spain and apologising to Nico, so this may have been his revenge.

What is that all about?
Apparently this was revenge for Nico doing the same in Bahrain when trying to pass Lewis.