Redbull forced to change nose

Redbull forced to change nose

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Dunit

Original Poster:

643 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Redbull have upset Bernie in where their front mounted camera is mounted,In the vanity panel,And must now use outside mountings like every one else.

revrange

1,182 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Should have been enforced in oz

Tony2or4

1,283 posts

171 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Dunit said:
Redbull have upset Bernie in where their front mounted camera is mounted,In the vanity panel,And must now use outside mountings like every one else.
Have you got a link to a report on this?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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revrange said:
Should have been enforced in oz
this.

quite apart from taking the piss, TV is where the money comes from, so why should RB get away with not contributing to the TV coverage?

Dunit

Original Poster:

643 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Tony2or4 said:
Have you got a link to a report on this?
It was on the Grandprix.com site

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Devastating news :yawn:

Have they made F1 interesting again yet?

tristancliffe

357 posts

219 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Scuffers said:
this.

quite apart from taking the piss, TV is where the money comes from, so why should RB get away with not contributing to the TV coverage?
But they do have a camera, and they do contribute. It's just hidden from the airflow a bit more.

Justaredbadge

37,068 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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revrange said:
Should have been enforced in oz
Quite.

Alfa numeric

3,056 posts

185 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Scuffers said:
revrange said:
Should have been enforced in oz
this.

quite apart from taking the piss, TV is where the money comes from, so why should RB get away with not contributing to the TV coverage?
They have a camera- it's in the nose rather than mounted on the side, so is more aerodynamically efficient- at least that's how I understand it. What's wrong with their solution?

Mikey G

4,764 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Alfa numeric said:
They have a camera- it's in the nose rather than mounted on the side, so is more aerodynamically efficient- at least that's how I understand it. What's wrong with their solution?
The camera FOM want to use don't fit apparently, last I heard anyway...

Scuffers

20,887 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Alfa numeric said:
Scuffers said:
revrange said:
Should have been enforced in oz
this.

quite apart from taking the piss, TV is where the money comes from, so why should RB get away with not contributing to the TV coverage?
They have a camera- it's in the nose rather than mounted on the side, so is more aerodynamically efficient- at least that's how I understand it. What's wrong with their solution?
what? apart from the pictures being totally unusable? as in that's what the camera is there for?


Teppic

7,481 posts

263 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Alfa numeric said:
They have a camera- it's in the nose rather than mounted on the side, so is more aerodynamically efficient- at least that's how I understand it. What's wrong with their solution?
The FIA want camera to have the option of being rear facing, so that you can see what the suspension is doing. If the camera is mounted inboard of the nose then obviously you can't have it rear facing.

Alfa numeric

3,056 posts

185 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Cheers all. It was a genuine question, sorry if it came across as antagonistic. I guess they want to roll out the movable version that they've been testing on Bottas's Williams?

Sixpackpert

4,663 posts

220 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08625

It's all down to interpretation. Newey interpreted it one way, everyone else interpreted it the other way it seems.

glazbagun

14,430 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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I'd always thought that those camera pods would be used to eek out a little more downforce. Obviously not!

Tc24

530 posts

145 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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I'm sure somebody over on F1 Technical mentioned that the Mercedes type camera mounts actually resulted in a performance gain over not having them at all. Assume RBR will go down this route.

Paul_M3

2,405 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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ash73 said:
What's the actual problem with it?
This is the footage it gives:


GroundEffect

13,864 posts

162 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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ash73 said:
Hmmm that pic looks like it's been cropped to make it look worse than it is...?
See the Sky Sports F1 logo. That was actually all you could see.


Doink

1,655 posts

153 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Over the years the teams shaping the housings and putting them in strategic places as to affect airflow (for the better obviously) they did this with wing mirrors too, anyone remember the ferrari with outboard mirrors sat on the front of the side pods, totally ineffective to see out of but helped airflow, the FIA are or have outlawed this, as for the cameras aren't they meant to be mounted within FIA supplied housings and this season the nose cameras are meant to be mounted inside a virtual box, my understanding of the mercs horn shaped mounting suggests they needed to do this to get the cameras within this virtual box

Looking at the RBR and the rules i guess there is nothing saying that the camera housing could be hidden under the vanity panel and not outside of it assuming it still falls withing the virtual box?

MG CHRIS

9,148 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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wow f1 falling to new lows being forced to change a wing for a fking camera how utterly pathetic.