So, summary of F1 so far this season?

So, summary of F1 so far this season?

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toppstuff

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13,698 posts

253 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Mercedes look pretty epic. Nothing between the drivers - WDC could go to either of them.

Red Bull improving rapidly. Impressed with Daniel Ricciardo - he's taking the fight to Vettel. I think RB will be competing with Mercedes for wins sooner rather than later.

Ferrari look rubbish. They have a lot of work to do. Luca must be pouting and throwing his man bag around with determination. Italian hissy fits in Maranello methinks.

McLaren are inconsistent. I won't right them off just yet. But no doubt that Ron has work to do.

The other MB engined teams look good - quite a fight evolving between Force India and Williams. Williams, by the way, are certainly the most stylish team in the paddock now - loving the Martini livery.

Interested to see who wins out between Hulkenberg and Perez.

Sauber look weak. I think they also made a mistake hiring Sutil - he really is a waste of a F1 seat.

Lotus have a lot to do as well - but I have lost interest in them since they hired that clown Maldonado.

I like the new cars too. And I don't mind the sound.

Other than the weakness of Ferrari and the rapid improvement of the Red Bulls, what else is standing out for you ?

lbc

3,254 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I am enjoying the battle between the Merc powered teams. biggrin

I don't give a stuff about RB or Ferrari. smile

Lotus have lost my vote with Maldonado in the team.

Am also enjoying the battle between Caterham and Marussia. biggrin

A very good season so far. smile


CharlesAL

532 posts

130 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Really enjoying the Mercedes battle and glad that Lewis is on top, so far.

Likewise the McLaren/Williams/Force India battle. Kinda disappointed Hulk didn't get the podium but I'm a big fan of Perez so still happy for him.

Ferrari though... Mercedes are showing what you can do when you build the whole car and Ferrari are just getting overtaken by everyone, Alonso coming home 9th with his fist in the air kinda sums it up.

And Lotus, real sad to see them struggling like that. Wanted Hulk to move there based on their 2012-13 form but I'm glad he didn't. Don't care about Maldonado, gutted for Grosjean.

m444ttb

3,163 posts

235 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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The pre-season suggestion was that the RB10 was fast when working properly. Wonder if they have started discussion with Mercedes for the RB11 seeing as McLaren are off!

Ferrari is, so far at least, a sad state of affairs. Monte must be worrying for his job now let alone the team management. Luckily F1 isn't quite so knee jerk in it's decision making as a sport like football. If their pace doesn't improve Alonso won't hold onto that (impressive but still deeply unsatisfactory) 4th place and he'll be looking for alternative employment.

confucuis

1,307 posts

130 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Great to see force india and williams mixing it up for podiums. Bit disappointed for Hulkenburg last week, he seemed to do everything right and deserved that 3rd place which would be the best of his career, wouldn't it? But their reliability just let him down in the last couple of laps. I think sadly Hamilton has the measure of Rosberg and we will rarely see such close battles between the two.
As a Ferrari supporter I've no idea whats going on and am extremely angry/disappointed in their performance. I also have absolutely no confidence in their ability to make up the gap and think that they shouldn't have signed kimi but Hulkenburg instead, he seems to have be very fast and consistent at least a match for Alonso (can you tell I'm a fan smile)

entropy

5,565 posts

209 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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The look on Rosberg's face post race. I'd be pissed if it was me but I can't help think that a storm is brewing and somebody is going to stoop low or some sort of intra-team controversy.

s3fella

10,524 posts

193 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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I've enjoyed it far far more than the last couple of seasons, so far. The mercs are clearly very dominant, bit tighter in wet, but the rest do seem very mixed up, almost like what IMHO were the great days with varying fuel loads where guys at the back fought through the pack from the start etc.

It's still quite artificial, and I think the fuel saving is holding all the cars back, ( just look how quick the mercs were in the last 10 laps), but perhaps if they removed the restriction, everyone would clear off and it'd be a boring procession again.

I sort of watched first race, got bored in 2nd race, watched 3rd all the way through, first time for probably 2 seasons.

So overall a thumbs up from me.

Some Gump

12,833 posts

192 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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After years of dominance by flirting with the edges of the rules, red bull have been out developed. Since they can't beat their rivals on the track, they have switched tack to try to have the rules changed so they can win again. Failure to bend to their will risks a dummy / floor interface.

Meanwhile, ferrari have not done a good enough job on their engine. This is also causing their big gaffer to spit his dummy out, and he's siding with red bull.

The rest of them are generally getting on with it - and as per every ther season some races are good, some are epic - like bahrain. Of course being f1, 1 team is miles in front as per usual, but their drivers are pretty evenly matched - which is a good outlook for the season if the prost / senna, mansell / piquet etc years are anything to go by.

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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m444ttb said:
Ferrari is, so far at least, a sad state of affairs. Monte must be worrying for his job now let alone the team management. Luckily F1 isn't quite so knee jerk in it's decision making as a sport like football. If their pace doesn't improve Alonso won't hold onto that (impressive but still deeply unsatisfactory) 4th place and he'll be looking for alternative employment.
But is it though?

Was discussing this the other day. In my lifetime (43 years) Ferrari have been extremely hit and miss. I only really started taking an interest in F1 from when Alan Jones joined Williams. So 1978/79 I guess.

Early 70's Ferrari had some success of course but the 80's and 90's were poor at best for Ferrari. Early 2000's were successful with Schumacher but since then poor again.

Way I see it Ferrari has been building poor F1 cars for the last 30-40 years bar the 8/9 year domination of Schumacher.

toppstuff

Original Poster:

13,698 posts

253 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Agent Orange said:
But is it though?

Was discussing this the other day. In my lifetime (43 years) Ferrari have been extremely hit and miss. I only really started taking an interest in F1 from when Alan Jones joined Williams. So 1978/79 I guess.

Early 70's Ferrari had some success of course but the 80's and 90's were poor at best for Ferrari. Early 2000's were successful with Schumacher but since then poor again.

Way I see it Ferrari has been building poor F1 cars for the last 30-40 years bar the 8/9 year domination of Schumacher.
Some people would say that Ferrari were only truly dominant when they were cheating... wink Or, at least, had the FIA turning the other cheek when it came to allowing differences between teams to continue...

Durzel

12,430 posts

174 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Utterly uninspired by F1 2014.

Basically just a different winning team making the same overtures about how the engines, etc are the way forward and correct for the sport, and everyone else who is behind saying the opposite.

Hamilton is one smug tt when he's winning, which is grating knowing how much he throws his toys out of the pram when he isn't.

F1 2014 - same formula but replace Red Bull with Mercedes. Next year it could just as easily be Ferrari with the same advantage over the others, with the same things being said by the respective parties.

Sounds st too, there's no getting past that.

Ahonen

5,022 posts

285 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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confucuis said:
Great to see force india and williams mixing it up for podiums. Bit disappointed for Hulkenburg last week, he seemed to do everything right and deserved that 3rd place which would be the best of his career, wouldn't it? But their reliability just let him down in the last couple of laps.
I didn't realise Nico had a reliability issue in the last few laps. What went wrong?

toppstuff

Original Poster:

13,698 posts

253 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Durzel said:
Utterly uninspired by F1 2014.

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if you really believe that, then I don't think motor racing is for you.

The Bahrain race was certainly not uninspiring. Not by a long way - all through the grid there was close racing and a lot of overtaking.

I was a major critic of F1 last year. But this year I am much happier.

maffski

1,878 posts

165 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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entropy said:
The look on Rosberg's face post race. I'd be pissed if it was me but I can't help think that a storm is brewing and somebody is going to stoop low or some sort of intra-team controversy.
I hope so, he needs to get more aggressive. Every time he passed Lewis in Bahrain he gave him plenty of space to come back, it isn't gentleman racing.

entropy

5,565 posts

209 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Durzel said:
Hamilton is one smug tt when he's winning, which is grating knowing how much he throws his toys out of the pram when he isn't.
You can say the say the same with most drivers. Even someone like Button.

I knew all along Vettel was too good be true when he came into the sport with that stupid grin of his.

They're competitive, out to win. Even someone highly revered like Jim Clark could get grumpy with JYS when the upstart started winning.

bubney72

1,121 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Mercedes chief designer Aldo Costa has built a fantastic car for Mercedes.

confucuis

1,307 posts

130 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Ahonen said:
I didn't realise Nico had a reliability issue in the last few laps. What went wrong?
I don't rightly know, I just remember he came on the radio complaining of no power and then he just started to fall back after the safety car when before it he and Perez were having a right old battle.

schmunk

4,399 posts

131 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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confucuis said:
Ahonen said:
I didn't realise Nico had a reliability issue in the last few laps. What went wrong?
I don't rightly know, I just remember he came on the radio complaining of no power and then he just started to fall back after the safety car when before it he and Perez were having a right old battle.
It was Lewis that came on the radio complaining of no power (at the same time as he was setting a new fastest lap of the race...)

confucuis

1,307 posts

130 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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schmunk said:
It was Lewis that came on the radio complaining of no power (at the same time as he was setting a new fastest lap of the race...)
I'd forgotten about that, maybe I'm mixing them up but I'm almost sure Hulkenburg came on the radio complaining about something, I could be wrong though.

BritishRacinGrin

25,139 posts

166 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Just watched it, Hulkenberg was apparently suffering a 'low energy store' from about lap 50, which presumably reduced the power available from his ERS.