Modern Formula 1 is artificial - Jacques Villeneuve

Modern Formula 1 is artificial - Jacques Villeneuve

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Fire99

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9,844 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Probably lighting a match by an open gas-tap but I agree with Villeneuve's comments on this one.

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

233 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Yes, and he's right about the solution to it being boring is to make it more and more artificial. Introduce one gimmick and when that becomes tiresome you can't just take it away you have to replace it with a bigger gimmick. In TV circles it's known as jumping the shark.

So I agree with him in principle but actually I've enjoyed the last few seasons and am excited about it getting going again next month.

custardtart

1,731 posts

259 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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I like DRS, I hate the fact drivers are so openly having to drive slowly. I get that tyre management has always been a factor but the current requirement does make it all a bit Mickey Mouse.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

234 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Source?

Thanks. smile

pozi

1,723 posts

193 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Hence next year he is racing a 2L turbo charged 4 wheel drive Peugot 208 making 600HP in World Rallycross.

No electronic difs, driver aids, just a load of power and his right foot!!

harryowl

1,114 posts

187 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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funkyrobot said:
Source?

Thanks. smile
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26178312



Munter

31,323 posts

247 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Modern Formula 1 is artificial...

...and I thought cars grew on trees!

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

234 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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harryowl said:
funkyrobot said:
Source?

Thanks. smile
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26178312
Wow. Thanks. smile

rdjohn

6,329 posts

201 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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I think that stating the simple truth that F1 can never be green is the most important point. The FIA should have gone head over heels to get people into watching and understanding ŴEC, especially Le Mans, to promote genuine competition and what can be achieved with current hybrid technology.

Instead they emasculate F1 and introduce phoney Formula E. Who will ever want to buy into electric car technology if you show everyone that you need a second car to complete the race distance. I thought that Todt would make a difference, I just wrongly assumed that it would be positive.

As for getting kids interested, wrong again WRX or even monster trucks seems to capture their imagination. Any sport that becomes slower year-on-year, is bound to fail.

Munter

31,323 posts

247 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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rdjohn said:
As for getting kids interested, wrong again WRX or even monster trucks seems to capture their imagination. Any sport that becomes slower year-on-year, is bound to fail.
Speed doesn't matter. They have been fast. And are still fast. Really fast. What it needs is excitement and (perceived) risk.

People enjoy seeing someone dice with other competitors, and/or the laws of physics. F1 however is chess on wheels, and looks like it could be done 1/2 asleep with one hand on the wheel.

Take away the aero and grip, add power, they'll be slower around a lap, but wayyyyyy more fun to watch.

StevieBee

13,368 posts

261 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Whilst his comments have relevance, there is a slightly amusing irony that he choses the launch of his career in Rallycross to do this; Rallycross being a branch of motorsport created purely for TV audiences.

I used to marshall rallycross events and did a few 'TV' meetings and quite often had to re-run heats if they didn't look exciting or close enough!

So, nothing artificial there then!

P-Jay

10,737 posts

197 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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He might be right, he might be wrong, but one fact for certain is Jacques Villeneuve is a tt.

Fire99

Original Poster:

9,844 posts

235 months

Sunday 16th February 2014
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harryowl said:
funkyrobot said:
Source?

Thanks. smile
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26178312
Thanks smile I forgot the important bit.. biggrin

Fire99

Original Poster:

9,844 posts

235 months

Sunday 16th February 2014
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P-Jay said:
He might be right, he might be wrong, but one fact for certain is Jacques Villeneuve is a tt.
He has his moments but I like Villeneuve, mostly because he doesn't mince his words and says it how he sees it. smile

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

138 months

Sunday 16th February 2014
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I don't want green F1 cars, I want everything on the verge of exploding, 100% attack %100 of the time. 1000 BHP V10 engines with manual gearboxes, slick tyres, big wings and wheel to wheel racing around properly dramatic backdrops.

If F1 has a conscience, it should spend its vast wealth on carbon offset programmes, not turning the cars into single seat Honda Jizz hybrids.

I won't be watching this year, it's just tedious now. There are better races between reps in the Hatfield tunnel.

Vaud

51,800 posts

161 months

Sunday 16th February 2014
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Fire99 said:
P-Jay said:
He might be right, he might be wrong, but one fact for certain is Jacques Villeneuve is a tt.
He has his moments but I like Villeneuve, mostly because he doesn't mince his words and says it how he sees it. smile
I like what he says, I don't like how he says it. He has an arrogance - rather than a confidence - about himself that I have never liked. Shame personalities aren't inherited.