Viewing figures 10% down in 2013

Viewing figures 10% down in 2013

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Derek Smith

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46,317 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formul...

From memory, perhaps someone could confirm/deny?, the method of collating the viewing figures has changed recently in order to get some truth into them. So 10% is probably just the first step.

PeXy

2,163 posts

177 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Not going to help when the drivers are saying the cars are too slow.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112403

Scuffers

20,887 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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who was it that was berating me for saying this years cars will be the slowest ever again?


Siscar

6,315 posts

135 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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The speed of the cars isn't the issue to me, it's whether there is any competition, any real doubt as to who wins. Watching when the only question is who comes second isnt the same.

AFC1886

3,430 posts

156 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Scuffers said:
who was it that was berating me for saying this years cars will be the slowest ever again?
Father Christmas?

Bradgate

2,940 posts

153 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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It's hardly surprising that viewing figures are down 10%.

I watch a lot of sport, both live and on TV. When you go to a Football, Rugby or Cricket match, you don't know the outcome in advance. That's what makes it interesting and exciting. It's why you watch.

F1, however, has lost sight of that fundamental point. Red Bull have so completely dominated 2 of the last 3 seasons that the outcomes of races and championships became a foregone conclusion. This season's rule changes are not a moment too soon.

Sexual Chocolate

1,583 posts

150 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Have to agree, if you know the outcome before the start of the race why waste a few hours duing the summer to watch it.

n3il123

2,666 posts

219 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Joe Saward has some stuff to say on it and the way that the viewing figures are made up:

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/thoughts...


McClure

2,173 posts

152 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Scuffers said:
who was it that was berating me for saying this years cars will be the slowest ever again?
F1 cars having circa 700bhp is pathetic in an era of the P1, 918, Enzo II. Even the current front-engined GT Ferrari has more power.

1000bhp please.

Chrisgr31

13,665 posts

261 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Interesting articles on F1 Broadcasting here http://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/

There does seem to be a lot of media interest around broadcasting fgures at present and I guess someone somewhere is briefing. I suspect it must be someone in the teams as effectively it appears they are losing out because the income from TV Rights is going up with the move to Pay TV, but the viewing figures down. The income going up benefits Bernie/CVC etc, the viewers going down affects sponsorship and hence the teams.

London424

12,897 posts

181 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Scuffers said:
who was it that was berating me for saying this years cars will be the slowest ever again?
Slowest ever? I doubt it.

StevieBee

13,368 posts

261 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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The actual calculation of viewing figures is a black art and prone to skewing. Also, what counts towards someone watching F1 varies around the world. In the UK for example, someone who see a report of a race on a news programme is counted as 'viewing F1' whereas in other countries, only someone watching the race would count.

Either way, a 10% drop is worrying.

TKH

395 posts

195 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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I think there are several factors at play one worldwide and one UK specific

as others have said the outcome becomes predictable you become less avid a watcher

When BBC drop it and spend all licence payers money on footbalists instead that decreases numbers as not all have Sky.

I also agree 700 bhp when we had 1200 in 1986 seems backwards particularly given Veyron ,P1 etc

Edited by TKH on Tuesday 4th February 18:29

Crafty_

13,431 posts

206 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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PeXy said:
Not going to help when the drivers are saying the cars are too slow.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112403
There is plenty to come, even before the first race. Jerez didn't see a huge number of laps run and cars either not running at all or held together with pop rivets.. hardly the finished article.

As far as the calls for more power goes, it won't make the cars massively quicker - they're struggling in the corners, power doesn't help there.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Crafty_ said:
As far as the calls for more power goes, it won't make the cars massively quicker - they're struggling in the corners, power doesn't help there.
Who cares?

More power + less grip = more sideways action


anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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McClure said:
F1 cars having circa 700bhp is pathetic in an era of the P1, 918, Enzo II. Even the current front-engined GT Ferrari has more power.

1000bhp please.
Are you suggesting a P1 is faster than a 2014 F1 car? The P1 weighs 1400kg, the minimum weight for an F1 car is 690kg. Also an F1 tyre is quite a lot stickier than a road tyre.

ETA: Okay so people want them to be massively fast and getting sideways. I see.

Crafty_

13,431 posts

206 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Scuffers said:
Who cares?

More power + less grip = more sideways action
You'd probably love it at your local banger racing track...

Scuffers

20,887 posts

280 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Scuffers said:
Who cares?

More power + less grip = more sideways action
You'd probably love it at your local banger racing track...
No, but it would certainly be more fun to watch which drivers have the better skills at driving on the edge of (mechanical) grip....

Why do you think people love watching V8 stupidcars?

The best years of f1 where when they had more power than gripnand without the aero to make up for it

petergb

236 posts

188 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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Will the GP2 cars be quicker? I found last year I was more interested in the GP2 races than the GPs.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 4th February 2014
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I would say the drop is because of F1 not being completely available on free terrestrial channels. Many people, who are not complete F1 geeks, would turn on and watch the race if it were on the Beeb, but they (like me) wouldn't be interested enough to specifically pay to do so imo