Kimi out for last 2 races - back operation

Kimi out for last 2 races - back operation

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mollytherocker

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14,370 posts

215 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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HoHoHo

15,142 posts

256 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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That's a shame, hope he recovers quickly and back in the seat soon.

McClure

2,173 posts

152 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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That explains why they were suddenly so keen to get payment sorted out before Austin.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

253 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Sets him up nicely for a new set of fresh, F1 driver excuses for next season.

And yes, I'm only kidding, before the Kimi club wades inwink

Actually I wonder, in all seriousness, if there are any fitness related clauses in his Ferrari contract? I still think the Reds should have picked Hulkenberg.

Hub

6,513 posts

204 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Ignoring the fact it might be an excuse, is it a sign that the season is too long? Not enough recovery time before you have to start it all again!

Derek Smith

46,317 posts

254 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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toppstuff said:
Actually I wonder, in all seriousness, if there are any fitness related clauses in his Ferrari contract? I still think the Reds should have picked Hulkenberg.
First thought that went through my mind. Ferrari demanded a full check up and identified a problem.

McClure

2,173 posts

152 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Hub said:
Ignoring the fact it might be an excuse, is it a sign that the season is too long? Not enough recovery time before you have to start it all again!
It's the mechanics I feel for the most. The season should be no more than 16 races, for numerous reasons.

Chrisgr31

13,664 posts

261 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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McClure said:
That explains why they were suddenly so keen to get payment sorted out before Austin.
It's possible that he feels the deal with Quantum is never going to complete, and therefore he is never going to paid. In which case he might as well duck out of the last 2 races, and get his back sorted so he is ready for next year when he knows that Ferrari have the money to pay him.

I suspect it might be a win win for Lotus as I expect they have insurance on him that pays out in the event he can't race. So that will pay out even though they havent paid Kimi (assuming they have paid the premium!)

SmoothCriminal

5,270 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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No major's are reporting it? Sky still showing he wants to use the short wheel base at Austin.

bishbash

2,447 posts

203 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I wonder who will race in his place, Jérôme D’Ambrosio is reserve I think, but I wonder if they'll try and poach whoever is lined up for the seat in 2014.

Edit: To answer my own question, it's going to be Davide Valsecchi according to http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/valsecch...

Edited by bishbash on Sunday 10th November 11:46

jamiebae

6,245 posts

217 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Valsecchi has to be top of the list to replace him, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see someone totally talentless but with a massive bag of cash jump in to take the drive, maybe Rodolfo Gonzalez?

At the other end of the scale I wonder if a deal could be struck with Caterham to put Kovalainen in the car - he's the best driver with recent F1 experience available who isn't in a race seat and is the most likely to score points which is important for the constructors championship. I expect Valsecchi will struggle to finish in the top 10 given his lack of experience.

davepoth

29,395 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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HoHoHo said:
That's a shame, hope he recovers quickly and back in the seat soon.
He was sat in his new Ferrari seat this week for a test fitting. wink

rallycross

13,198 posts

243 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Shame as he could have won again probably gave them an ultimatum to get paid and they still couldn't pay he decided to drop them.

Lotus should get an experienced driver in that car for the last 2 races points means big money for the team, there's a German bloke who might be more than happy to keep Mercedes behind Lotus in the constructors championship .

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

180 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Hmm, well this is worrying if true. Back operations are not always straight forward and do not always fix the problem either....... could be an issue given his age and the big regulation changes that are coming up next year.

OR... this could all be PR management from Lotus/Kimi..... maybe he has stuck two fingers up to them and doesn't see why he should race without being paid.

Shame as this kills off possibly the most interesting story in F1 at moment! I wonder who they will get in that car to race it for the last 2?

fatbutt

2,828 posts

270 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Kimi and Alonso, both with back injuries. Surely someone should be questioning why? It's not crashing as there don't seem, to have been any of much significance this season. Kerbing? Tyres?

Stedman

7,275 posts

198 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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fatbutt said:
Kimi and Alonso, both with back injuries. Surely someone should be questioning why? It's not crashing as there don't seem, to have been any of much significance this season. Kerbing? Tyres?
Kimi's problem comes from a crash he had in testing in 2001.

Crafty_

13,430 posts

206 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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fatbutt said:
Kimi and Alonso, both with back injuries. Surely someone should be questioning why? It's not crashing as there don't seem, to have been any of much significance this season. Kerbing? Tyres?
Kimi has an old injury from years back that he has aggravated IIRC.

Alonso's little trip across the kerbs in Abu Dhabi set off the crash monitor in the car, meaning at some point he experienced 25g, which is rather a lot.


ajprice

28,913 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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fatbutt said:
Kimi and Alonso, both with back injuries. Surely someone should be questioning why? It's not crashing as there don't seem, to have been any of much significance this season. Kerbing? Tyres?
Wasn't Alonso's from the hairy side by side pit exit with Vergne at Abu Dhabi, bailing out across the kerbs?

Vaud

51,799 posts

161 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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fatbutt said:
Kimi and Alonso, both with back injuries. Surely someone should be questioning why? It's not crashing as there don't seem, to have been any of much significance this season. Kerbing? Tyres?
Many years in high g racing with lots of accidents. Most retired drivers carry some kind of injury.

Vaud

51,799 posts

161 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Chrisgr31 said:
It's possible that he feels the deal with Quantum is never going to complete, and therefore he is never going to paid. In which case he might as well duck out of the last 2 races, and get his back sorted so he is ready for next year when he knows that Ferrari have the money to pay him.

I suspect it might be a win win for Lotus as I expect they have insurance on him that pays out in the event he can't race. So that will pay out even though they havent paid Kimi (assuming they have paid the premium!)
It's more probable that the back injury doesn't put him in contract breach which means he is still owed his money to date, even if he isn't racing.

Whereas if he had just stopped turning up he would be been in material breach and they could probably have withheld a lot of it...