Official 2024 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2024 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Poll: Official 2024 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Total Members Polled: 224

Verstappen: 18%
Perez: 0%
Leclerc: 1%
Sainz: 0%
Norris: 42%
Piastri: 4%
Russell: 4%
Hamilton: 30%
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skeeterm5

3,577 posts

194 months

Monday 8th July
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For me this was the best race of the season so far.

The only thing that spoilt it (again) was DRS which allowed MV to simply drive by LN and cost us the chance to see a great battle between two drivers on form.


RB Will

9,834 posts

246 months

Monday 8th July
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NRS said:
It's kinda strange, so many drivers do badly at their home race as they probably put too much pressure on themselves, whereas Lewis does well. It's in contrast to him at Brazil which he typically also really wants to win but he tends to (relatively) struggle far more/be unlucky.
Wonder if there is something inherent in the Merc design that makes it a bit comparatively handy around Silverstone too?
If you compare that Merc tally with his results in a McLaren (1st, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 8th and 16th) while not bad wouldn’t get you called king of anywhere.
This isn’t a Lewis is garbage it is all the car post, just wondering having seen the stat what it is about the combo of Lewis and a Merc that is so strong here

LeoSayer

7,365 posts

250 months

Monday 8th July
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skeeterm5 said:
For me this was the best race of the season so far.

The only thing that spoilt it (again) was DRS which allowed MV to simply drive by LN and cost us the chance to see a great battle between two drivers on form.
Easily the best race of the year.

The period when the track was wet and DRS was disabled was the most exciting part. I do wonder if the ground effects cars negate the need for DRS.

Dave200

5,671 posts

226 months

Monday 8th July
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isaldiri said:
Dave200 said:
..... Both McLaren and Mercedes were much quicker than Max (and everyone else) in both the early dry and wet phases of the race. Nothing to suggest that wouldn't have been the case later on.
Not really - Verstappen was only marginally slower than the Mclaren up to lap 14-15. The merc was eking out a small advantage but it was never a case of being 'much quicker than the other cars. The Mclaren was definitely much the quickest car in the early wet/dry conditions though.....
You're right, "much quicker" was a bit hyperbolic. That said, he was 3s+ back from 4th at the change to inters and had showed no signs of being able to close the gap.

tele_lover

558 posts

21 months

Monday 8th July
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sandman77 said:
cliffords said:
I do think Piastri showed again today he really is a future world champion , given the car and hearing him speaking afterwards, I think we will see him as a world champion one day .
I would bet money on him becoming world champion before Lando.
I agree with this.

Lando seems to let emotion affect him, whereas Piastri is sub-zero cool.

tele_lover

558 posts

21 months

Monday 8th July
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PRO5T said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Jasandjules said:
paulw123 said:
The cringe factor is strong here.
Oddly I thought it was quite sweet. He said something like he'd been watching from Copse or a named corner I can't recall six times and this was his first time on the grid. He seemed genuinely excited to be there (and did on the podium too), so that was nice.
The politician was Peter Kyle, he’s the new Secretary of State for Science and Innovation, and as you say he was talking about having attended the race as a fan several times before. I’m sure he enjoyed handing that big gold trophy to Lewis at the end of the day.

I’m a terrible cynic when it comes to politicians, and have rather low expectations for the new UK government, but it’s difficult to critisise him really. He’s been in the job only 48 hours, and the GP is one of the biggest events in his department’s calendar, a massive global showcase of British technology and innovation. I’d have been much more critical if he wasn’t there. The new Defence Secretary, on the other hand, well he got to spend yesterday in Odessa, Ukraine.
Agreed, I thought he came across really well and I thought Martin was a bit short with him because of either who he was, or who he represented. Which never seems to bother him when he's got some sheik to give airtime to in some dustbowl.
I thought this too. I was a little disappointed with Martin to be honest.

He'll go and speak with some moron celebrity but brushed-off an excited minister showing some personality.

tele_lover

558 posts

21 months

Monday 8th July
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RB Will said:
Wonder if there is something inherent in the Merc design that makes it a bit comparatively handy around Silverstone too?
Like the Silverstone-specific front-wing they brought? smile

(I'm sure that's what Ted said)

isaldiri

19,840 posts

174 months

Monday 8th July
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DeejRC said:
YHM.
you do too

beer

Jonnny

29,506 posts

195 months

Monday 8th July
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RB Will said:
Wonder if there is something inherent in the Merc design that makes it a bit comparatively handy around Silverstone too?
Wonder if they also turn everything up to 11, "home" race for the team and probably get many family members there etc.

Jasandjules

70,414 posts

235 months

Monday 8th July
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Jonnny said:
RB Will said:
Wonder if there is something inherent in the Merc design that makes it a bit comparatively handy around Silverstone too?
Wonder if they also turn everything up to 11, "home" race for the team and probably get many family members there etc.
To be fair it is worth the risk. And if that is what they did, it was 100% worth that risk!!

732NM

6,096 posts

21 months

Monday 8th July
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oyster said:
Seriously?

The Red Bull Ring has almost all fast corners. It’s breathtaking.
All the overtaking points are braking into slow corners, it's st.

Common Porpoise

753 posts

176 months

Monday 8th July
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Sandpit Steve said:
Yes the anthem always starts exactly 14 minutes before the race, and the music was a recording rather than a live band, so relatively easy to get the planes in place to within a second or two. The RAs will have someone at the circuit with a radio making sure the event runs to time, the lead pilot will have a navigator in the back seat doing the maths, and they’ll adjust their speed and final turn to line up right on time.

They’re the Red Arrows though, it’s what they do. When they do air shows, they have a crew member on commentary and he gets the intro time to the second as they enter the display area. The intro is something like “Ladies and gentlemen, please put your hands together for the Royal Air Force Aerobatics Team, The Red Arrows” and on the A of Arrows they are directly over the crowd from behind.
more importantly all of those pilots will be very well trained in dropping bombs or passing targets timed to the second

TheDeuce

24,345 posts

72 months

Monday 8th July
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Jasandjules said:
Jonnny said:
RB Will said:
Wonder if there is something inherent in the Merc design that makes it a bit comparatively handy around Silverstone too?
Wonder if they also turn everything up to 11, "home" race for the team and probably get many family members there etc.
To be fair it is worth the risk. And if that is what they did, it was 100% worth that risk!!
They probably did turn them up. It was worth the risk for one of them... the other had a mechanical DNF wink


732NM

6,096 posts

21 months

Monday 8th July
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TheDeuce said:
They probably did turn them up. It was worth the risk for one of them... the other had a mechanical DNF wink
Low water pressure isn't caused by going up in power, unless you put a rod through the block. biggrin
It was likely something daft like a 10 pence seal failure.

TheDeuce

24,345 posts

72 months

Monday 8th July
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732NM said:
TheDeuce said:
They probably did turn them up. It was worth the risk for one of them... the other had a mechanical DNF wink
Low water pressure isn't caused by going up in power, unless you put a rod through the block. biggrin
It was likely something daft like a 10 pence seal failure.
Probably, but the harder the system has to work, the hotter the coolant becomes, it could increase the chance of a failure at some point in the coolant circuit.

As you say, it could very well just be an ill timed minor failure. Either way, I suspect they did push the PU's a little for the sake of glory.

LHRFlightman

1,970 posts

176 months

Monday 8th July
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My brother is a yacht Captain and occasionally does charters. He's had, if my memory is correct, 3 F1 drivers charter the boat.

Adrian Sutil and his wife. Nice, polite.
Massa and family. Smashed up a jet ski and denied it. Refused to pay for the damages.
Lewis. Polite, said please and thank you. Asked if it was ok to be taken to various quiet coves. Folded up his towel after sunbathing and put it away nearly.

My brother said he was a total gentleman.

And on track, GOAT!!!

Edited by LHRFlightman on Monday 8th July 22:37

732NM

6,096 posts

21 months

Monday 8th July
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TheDeuce said:
Probably, but the harder the system has to work, the hotter the coolant becomes, it could increase the chance of a failure at some point in the coolant circuit.

As you say, it could very well just be an ill timed minor failure. Either way, I suspect they did push the PU's a little for the sake of glory.
The cooling system is more than capable of handling any power increase, they run with most of it blanked off to reduce drag at the cooler venues in Europe. These things run at very high coolant temperatures. Cooling capacity isn't a problem.

732NM

6,096 posts

21 months

Monday 8th July
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LHRFlightman said:
Massi and family. Smashed up a jet ski and denied it. Refused to pay for the damages.
Just like AD21 then, smashed up a championship and scarpered.

TheDeuce

24,345 posts

72 months

Monday 8th July
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732NM said:
TheDeuce said:
Probably, but the harder the system has to work, the hotter the coolant becomes, it could increase the chance of a failure at some point in the coolant circuit.

As you say, it could very well just be an ill timed minor failure. Either way, I suspect they did push the PU's a little for the sake of glory.
The cooling system is more than capable of handling any power increase, they run with most of it blanked off to reduce drag at the cooler venues in Europe. These things run at very high coolant temperatures. Cooling capacity isn't a problem.
I have no problem acknowledging that the failure probably wasn't related to whatever power they ran.

But surely if it's blanked off in terms of air flow, they would blank it off as much as possible whilst maintaining the normal safe level of cooling ability - if they do that and also increase the power, which puts more heat energy into that system, it has to have the potential to increase the chance of a coolant system failure doesn't it..?

LHRFlightman

1,970 posts

176 months

Monday 8th July
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732NM said:
LHRFlightman said:
Massi and family. Smashed up a jet ski and denied it. Refused to pay for the damages.
Just like AD21 then, smashed up a championship and scarpered.
That was a typo, it was Massa.

Great line though.