The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*
Discussion
cuprabob said:
Just been reading on Sky. Great news. And another Brit on the grid. Personally I would like to have seen Robert Schwartzman - Ferrari reserve driver - have a crack at F1 but Ollie is flavour of the month after his debut at Saudi.
Fingers crossed he's not another Nick De Vries or Stoffel Vandoorne who made impact on their debuts then withered as their F1 career progressed.
Fingers crossed he's not another Nick De Vries or Stoffel Vandoorne who made impact on their debuts then withered as their F1 career progressed.
entropy said:
Personally I would like to have seen Robert Schwartzman - Ferrari reserve driver - have a crack at F1 but Ollie is flavour of the month after his debut at Saudi.
Fingers crossed he's not another Nick De Vries or Stoffel Vandoorne who made impact on their debuts then withered as their F1 career progressed.
Ferrari haven't given Schwartzman a factory WEC drive so hard to imagine they see him as F1 material.Fingers crossed he's not another Nick De Vries or Stoffel Vandoorne who made impact on their debuts then withered as their F1 career progressed.
Bearman deserves his chance but not everyone who comes in will thrive. As ever his first job is to beat his team mate - if he doesn't do well against Magnusson (who is not going to offer him any help) then he won't be on anyone's wish list for the future.
Sandpit Steve said:
scrw. said:
Bearman confirmed at Haas for 25 on a multi year deal it seems.
That’s well deserved, especially after his debut fill-in for Ferrari earlier in the year. After precisely no new signings last year, F1 is overdue some drivers moving up through the junior ladder.
Mark-C said:
Bearman deserves his chance but not everyone who comes in will thrive. As ever his first job is to beat his team mate - if he doesn't do well against Magnusson (who is not going to offer him any help) then he won't be on anyone's wish list for the future.
Are we sure Magnusson is going to get the other seat for 25? I have a sneaky feeling that Ocon might get it.Not sure as a rookie I would want either of them to be honest considering their lack of giving space to their team mates.
Not sure if already mentioned
Perez out
Dan in at red bull
Lawson in at RB
There’s no risk to any of this, the only stumbling block is Perez’s new contract, although I’d imagine that has a performance clause.
Marko has pretty much stated Lawson is taking Dan’s seat, we all know Horner has a big soft spot for Dan
Perez out
Dan in at red bull
Lawson in at RB
There’s no risk to any of this, the only stumbling block is Perez’s new contract, although I’d imagine that has a performance clause.
Marko has pretty much stated Lawson is taking Dan’s seat, we all know Horner has a big soft spot for Dan
Diderot said:
cuprabob said:
Just been reading on Sky. Great news. And another Brit on the grid. The Prema / Haas / Ferrari route looks to be a strong route in, Freddie Slater appears to be well placed (and is bloody fast!!) to be pushing the F1 door in two to three years.
A World Championship grid in 2025 formed up of 20% brits (in essence 25% including A.A) is some statement to make, not sure its viewed so positively outside the UK though?
onemorelap said:
Great news for Ollie Bearman, well deserved.
The Prema / Haas / Ferrari route looks to be a strong route in, Freddie Slater appears to be well placed (and is bloody fast!!) to be pushing the F1 door in two to three years.
A World Championship grid in 2025 formed up of 20% brits (in essence 25% including A.A) is some statement to make, not sure its viewed so positively outside the UK though?
Didn't we have 5 Germans on the grid not that long ago?The Prema / Haas / Ferrari route looks to be a strong route in, Freddie Slater appears to be well placed (and is bloody fast!!) to be pushing the F1 door in two to three years.
A World Championship grid in 2025 formed up of 20% brits (in essence 25% including A.A) is some statement to make, not sure its viewed so positively outside the UK though?
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
Mark-C said:
Bearman deserves his chance but not everyone who comes in will thrive. As ever his first job is to beat his team mate - if he doesn't do well against Magnusson (who is not going to offer him any help) then he won't be on anyone's wish list for the future.
Are we sure Magnusson is going to get the other seat for 25? I have a sneaky feeling that Ocon might get it.Not sure as a rookie I would want either of them to be honest considering their lack of giving space to their team mates.
Agree on Ocon not being great for a rookie either!
usn90 said:
Not sure if already mentioned
Perez out
Dan in at red bull
Lawson in at RB
There’s no risk to any of this, the only stumbling block is Perez’s new contract, although I’d imagine that has a performance clause.
Marko has pretty much stated Lawson is taking Dan’s seat, we all know Horner has a big soft spot for Dan
That's a strange viewpointPerez out
Dan in at red bull
Lawson in at RB
There’s no risk to any of this, the only stumbling block is Perez’s new contract, although I’d imagine that has a performance clause.
Marko has pretty much stated Lawson is taking Dan’s seat, we all know Horner has a big soft spot for Dan
Ricciardo is, at best, evenly matched with Tsunoda at RB. I'm a Ricciardo fan and have defended him but his performances this year have not merited an RBR seat so there is "risk" in promoting him there.
If Lawson comes into RB as expected, I would expect Ricciardo to be out of F1.
Muzzer79 said:
That's a strange viewpoint
Ricciardo is, at best, evenly matched with Tsunoda at RB. I'm a Ricciardo fan and have defended him but his performances this year have not merited an RBR seat so there is "risk" in promoting him there.
If Lawson comes into RB as expected, I would expect Ricciardo to be out of F1.
That would be the logical conclusion, but this is Red Bull. There is a sense that neither Daniel or Sergio are safe in their current seats on current form, no matter what their contracts say.Ricciardo is, at best, evenly matched with Tsunoda at RB. I'm a Ricciardo fan and have defended him but his performances this year have not merited an RBR seat so there is "risk" in promoting him there.
If Lawson comes into RB as expected, I would expect Ricciardo to be out of F1.
The other option is that Lawson leapfrogs straight into Perez's seat, and then it's a choice between Perez and Ricciardo at RB. That's the sort of thing they would have contemplated a few years ago in the Kvyat/Albon/Gasly days, but maybe not now if they're in a genuine scrap for the WCC.
Muzzer79 said:
usn90 said:
Not sure if already mentioned
Perez out
Dan in at red bull
Lawson in at RB
There’s no risk to any of this, the only stumbling block is Perez’s new contract, although I’d imagine that has a performance clause.
Marko has pretty much stated Lawson is taking Dan’s seat, we all know Horner has a big soft spot for Dan
That's a strange viewpointPerez out
Dan in at red bull
Lawson in at RB
There’s no risk to any of this, the only stumbling block is Perez’s new contract, although I’d imagine that has a performance clause.
Marko has pretty much stated Lawson is taking Dan’s seat, we all know Horner has a big soft spot for Dan
Ricciardo is, at best, evenly matched with Tsunoda at RB. I'm a Ricciardo fan and have defended him but his performances this year have not merited an RBR seat so there is "risk" in promoting him there.
If Lawson comes into RB as expected, I would expect Ricciardo to be out of F1.
Dan performed well for Redbull in the past, he performed well
In the test last year, maybe he’s just suited to the way the redbull drives, and if this is the case Horner and co know this.
Then there’s horners soft spot for him, and this internal wrestling in the team, Markos going to love giving Dan the boot so I can’t think of a better up yours than if Horner puts Dan in the redbull, he can’t be any worse than Perez so I don’t see the risk.
Tsunoda’s going nowhere near a redbull
DanielSan said:
kambites said:
Do you really think he would? I think I'd expect Russell to beat Sainz, if not by a huge margin.
Sainz would be beaten in quali, when it comes to scoring on Sunday I'd be willing to put money in Sainz coming out on top. Very rarely does he cock up on race day, unlike RussellMore mutterings in the press and paddock today about the Perez situation. Some are saying it could be a straight swap with Daniel, some say he will be dropped altogether to give Lawson a shot in either car. It could become real if he doesn't perform in the next three races before the summer break. Many will say Ricciardo hasn't done enough to justify it, but only RBR will have the data on both drivers to know which one is really doing the better job in the car they have.
Meanwhile, Sainz to Mercedes has surfaced again, possibly with Mercedes' improved recent form putting more pressure on them to take a known winner over a young rookie.
Meanwhile, Sainz to Mercedes has surfaced again, possibly with Mercedes' improved recent form putting more pressure on them to take a known winner over a young rookie.
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