Max Verstappen
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Bas Jaski said:
paulguitar said:
What else did he have to say?
What's your point Paul? He disagreed with Stella's comments, which by itself says plenty.paulguitar said:
I thought I'd missed something because you referred to a 'brilliant' comment he'd made. I saw the interview on Sky and it is indeed a curious position for him to take. I suspect that what he's doing is not getting involved in something which can't even remotely benefit him, and if he said something vaguely 'newsworthy' could become a big and tiring distraction.
Even when I say something positive on Lewis it's not good enough.you didn't leave Twitter, you just came hereto continue.
Bas Jaski said:
paulguitar said:
I thought I'd missed something because you referred to a 'brilliant' comment he'd made. I saw the interview on Sky and it is indeed a curious position for him to take. I suspect that what he's doing is not getting involved in something which can't even remotely benefit him, and if he said something vaguely 'newsworthy' could become a big and tiring distraction.
Even when I say something positive on Lewis it's not good enough.you didn't leave Twitter, you just came hereto continue.
honda_exige said:
The stewards didn't overreact though, they penalised the contact and no more - full agreement with that.
Let's do a deal, I'll accept Brundle's views on Austria if you accept his views on AD21
this Brundle view of AD21?;Let's do a deal, I'll accept Brundle's views on Austria if you accept his views on AD21
"And you don't even have to be a Lewis Hamilton fan to think that forever he should be an eight-time world champion, because, for me, the really crucial regulation that wasn't carried out was that the safety car should have come in at the end of the following lap."
Edited by anonymous_user on Friday 5th July 16:27
Teatowell said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Track limits infringements are judgements of fact, like jumped starts, and are objective. Erratic driving is subjective, but this is why you have stewards (hopefully) with experience of racing to interpret.
I think it is too easy to blame the stewards when the real problem is the relationship between the commercial entities that own F1 and the FIA who govern it. Precious little of what goes at this level ever comes out.
To be clear though, the rule is an absolute. No moving change of direction in the braking zone. So why the judgement. I think it is too easy to blame the stewards when the real problem is the relationship between the commercial entities that own F1 and the FIA who govern it. Precious little of what goes at this level ever comes out.
anonymous_user said:
mycool said:
i shouldn't feed the troll but are you soft in the head or just deliberately being a troll?
The edge of the track is defined by the white line. Therefore not a cars width. Not difficult to understand.
ahhh you're in stage 1 of dealing with Bo; denial, where you counter any 'point' he makesThe edge of the track is defined by the white line. Therefore not a cars width. Not difficult to understand.
next up...
2. anger; you just get really irritated by his posts
3. bargaining; you'll try to trade points with by accepting some of his as valid
4. exasperation; self explanatory
& then finally
5. acceptance; acceptance that he's just being a di...
Bas Jaski said:
What's your point Paul? He disagreed with Stella's comments, which by itself says plenty.
It could mean he thinks Max would not have changed if he got more penalties back then as he’s never going to change. Or that he’s just not going to help McLaren out in PR given they’ll likely have a lot more crashes with Max this year fighting for race wins. They never said anything to help Lewis out back then even though it seems clear Stella thought it, so he might leave them ‘on their own’ in complaining.Or it means what you think.
I think it was very likely Max and Lando would kiss and make up, you don’t lose a friendship that fast. The question is going to be if they keep having incidents like this then it’s really going to put a strain on the friendship over time. Lando could easily have taken out Max in some of the previous laps too. If it keeps happening it will add up and they’ll struggle to put aside the desire for victory.
Roofless Toothless said:
There is no rule that says this. I thought that was established in this thread (or the race thread) some time ago. The rule only refers to erratic movement on track, so is clearly a subjective matter for the stewards.
Not to reopen the can of worms but seems fairly clear to me. Any change of direction under braking which results in another driver having to take evasive action will be considered abnormal and hence potentially dangerous to other drivers. Any such move will be reported to the stewards
What else are any of the other drivers realistically going to say on record?
Let’s see what happens this weekend. If Max punts Lando off again, or Piastri or George or Lewis, then everyone’s apparent shrugging of their shoulders will only to serve highlight his unsportsmanlike behaviour, and that something needs to be done again. Time will tell.
Let’s see what happens this weekend. If Max punts Lando off again, or Piastri or George or Lewis, then everyone’s apparent shrugging of their shoulders will only to serve highlight his unsportsmanlike behaviour, and that something needs to be done again. Time will tell.
paulguitar said:
Bas Jaski said:
Also, I have new found respect for Lewis after his comment on Stella. Brilliant.
All I can find is when asked about Stella's comment is:'I don't agree with that, no'.
Is there more than I haven't found?
https://metro.co.uk/2024/07/04/lewis-hamilton-reac...
The incident once again raised questions about Verstappen’s aggressive driving style, something Hamilton knows plenty about after his titanic duel with the Red Bull driver for the 2021 title.
But when asked for his thoughts on what happened in Austria, the seven-time world champion refused to answer: ‘Nothing really. I didn’t think anything.
‘I was more concerned about my race and enjoying the team’s [Mercedes’] win.’
When pressed if he had any advice for Lando on how to better race Verstappen, he bluntly added: ‘Again, I don’t think I need to. They have raced each other for many years. It’s nothing to do with me.’
Seeing the interview on Sky.. it was clear Lewis simply didn’t want to get involved in the fallout.
HighwayStar said:
paulguitar said:
Bas Jaski said:
Also, I have new found respect for Lewis after his comment on Stella. Brilliant.
All I can find is when asked about Stella's comment is:'I don't agree with that, no'.
Is there more than I haven't found?
https://metro.co.uk/2024/07/04/lewis-hamilton-reac...
The incident once again raised questions about Verstappen’s aggressive driving style, something Hamilton knows plenty about after his titanic duel with the Red Bull driver for the 2021 title.
But when asked for his thoughts on what happened in Austria, the seven-time world champion refused to answer: ‘Nothing really. I didn’t think anything.
‘I was more concerned about my race and enjoying the team’s [Mercedes’] win.’
When pressed if he had any advice for Lando on how to better race Verstappen, he bluntly added: ‘Again, I don’t think I need to. They have raced each other for many years. It’s nothing to do with me.’
Seeing the interview on Sky.. it was clear Lewis simply didn’t want to get involved in the fallout.
"I don't agree with that, no," said Hamilton.
Asked if he could elaborate as to why, the Mercedes driver repeated: "I just don't agree with it."
honda_exige said:
He did specifically answer the point, twice, regarding Stella's comments:
"I don't agree with that, no," said Hamilton.
Asked if he could elaborate as to why, the Mercedes driver repeated: "I just don't agree with it."
I think NRS has a good take here:"I don't agree with that, no," said Hamilton.
Asked if he could elaborate as to why, the Mercedes driver repeated: "I just don't agree with it."
NRS said:
It could mean he thinks Max would not have changed if he got more penalties back then as he’s never going to change. Or that he’s just not going to help McLaren out in PR given they’ll likely have a lot more crashes with Max this year fighting for race wins. They never said anything to help Lewis out back then even though it seems clear Stella thought it, so he might leave them ‘on their own’ in complaining.
It's quite cryptic really. Lewis was not even remotely interested in getting involved...paulguitar said:
honda_exige said:
He did specifically answer the point, twice, regarding Stella's comments:
"I don't agree with that, no," said Hamilton.
Asked if he could elaborate as to why, the Mercedes driver repeated: "I just don't agree with it."
I think NRS has a good take here:"I don't agree with that, no," said Hamilton.
Asked if he could elaborate as to why, the Mercedes driver repeated: "I just don't agree with it."
NRS said:
It could mean he thinks Max would not have changed if he got more penalties back then as he’s never going to change. Or that he’s just not going to help McLaren out in PR given they’ll likely have a lot more crashes with Max this year fighting for race wins. They never said anything to help Lewis out back then even though it seems clear Stella thought it, so he might leave them ‘on their own’ in complaining.
It's quite cryptic really. Lewis was not even remotely interested in getting involved...
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