The Official F1 2024 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2024 silly season *contains speculation*

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732NM

5,345 posts

18 months

Monday 27th May
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They are considering it, according to gossip.

Keeps F1 in the press a few days after that boring stshow at Monaco.

nordboy

1,608 posts

53 months

Monday 27th May
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732NM said:
They are considering it, according to gossip.

Keeps F1 in the press a few days after that boring stshow at Monaco.
I think Ocon stays in his seat for Canada. The TP comments were very much made in the heat of the moment and I think things will calm down somewhat?

May well be that he's out of the team at the end of the season though.

Adrian W

14,216 posts

231 months

Monday 27th May
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nordboy said:
732NM said:
They are considering it, according to gossip.

Keeps F1 in the press a few days after that boring stshow at Monaco.
I think Ocon stays in his seat for Canada. The TP comments were very much made in the heat of the moment and I think things will calm down somewhat?

May well be that he's out of the team at the end of the season though.
Hopefully he will get offered a drive of a good car

hondajack85

90 posts

2 months

Monday 27th May
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Even though Ocon is a insolent troublemaker he is still better than all the names tossed about to replace him.
Dunno if he will be onboard next year though so what other team could he go to?

thegreenhell

16,067 posts

222 months

Monday 27th May
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He's rumoured to have been talking to every other team about next year, so he clearly wants out of Alpine. Joe Saward thinks he's Audi's second choice if they can't get Sainz.

Muzzer79

10,400 posts

190 months

Monday 27th May
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Adrian W said:
Hopefully he will get offered a drive of a good car
So he can regularly try and take his team mate out in that instead?

Ocon needs to learn that sometimes, just sometimes, going for the gap isn’t a good idea.

thegreenhell

16,067 posts

222 months

Monday 27th May
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Muzzer79 said:
Adrian W said:
Hopefully he will get offered a drive of a good car
So he can regularly try and take his team mate out in that instead?

Ocon needs to learn that sometimes, just sometimes, going for the gap isn’t a good idea.
Maybe Haas should sign him alongside KMag. The could trade tips on going for non-existent gaps.

Milkyway

9,599 posts

56 months

Tuesday 28th May
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thegreenhell said:
Maybe Haas should sign him alongside KMag. The could trade tips on going for non-existent gaps.
If you go for a gap that's not there... You're not a racing driver.

'O' Con.


Edited by Milkyway on Tuesday 28th May 06:46

ThingsBehindTheSun

520 posts

34 months

Tuesday 28th May
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And how many times has he taken out his team mate? Number one rule, never hit your team mate.

Ocon is an absolute liability, I would not employ him if I was a team boss for this reason alone.

Adrian W

14,216 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th May
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
And how many times has he taken out his team mate? Number one rule, never hit your team mate.

Ocon is an absolute liability, I would not employ him if I was a team boss for this reason alone.
Maybe Gasly could have backed out of it as well, Gasly is very good at getting on the radio and shouting,

They done like each other

wiliferus

4,081 posts

201 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Adrian W said:
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
And how many times has he taken out his team mate? Number one rule, never hit your team mate.

Ocon is an absolute liability, I would not employ him if I was a team boss for this reason alone.
Maybe Gasly could have backed out of it as well, Gasly is very good at getting on the radio and shouting,

They done like each other
Looking at the footage Ocon came left so aggressively Gasly had no where to go but the barrier.

I understand there were team orders in play that whoever was ahead stays ahead and the second car was to play the team game and create space. Ocon clearly not happy to play second fiddle to Gas.

Hiring them both was a massive, colossal risk that has exploded a few times just like many thought it would.

One of them needs to go and Ocon is certainly looking like the more vulnerable of the two at the moment, which pleases me as he comes across as a smug twunt.

Muzzer79

10,400 posts

190 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Adrian W said:
Maybe Gasly could have backed out of it as well, Gasly is very good at getting on the radio and shouting,

They done like each other
Backed out where? Ocon had him up against the barrier

There's a weird view pervading on PH at the moment - also seen with the Perez/Magnussen incident - that drivers making kamikaze moves on other drivers should have some form of leeway and that the driver they are kamikaze-ing into should 'back out of it'.

I agree that being in the right and out of the race is no good for anyone but you can't expect drivers at the peak of motorsport to just leap out of the way when another driver tries to force a crazy move.

ThingsBehindTheSun

520 posts

34 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Having just seen the following Video it would appear that is the 6th time Ocon and crashed into his team mate.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/video/30998/13144029/...

That is totally unacceptable.

Still Mulling

12,773 posts

180 months

Tuesday 28th May
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To me, Ocon is arrogant, entitled, and overrated. I’d happily lose him from the grid.

TheDeuce

22,872 posts

69 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Still Mulling said:
To me, Ocon is arrogant, entitled, and overrated.
Have you ever been to France? whistle

Milkyway

9,599 posts

56 months

Tuesday 28th May
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TheDeuce said:
Still Mulling said:
To me, Ocon is arrogant, entitled, and overrated.
Have you ever been to France? whistle
Perhaps he should have a horn fitted... or is that the Italians.

MustangGT

11,736 posts

283 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Muzzer79 said:
Adrian W said:
Hopefully he will get offered a drive of a good car
So he can regularly try and take his team mate out in that instead?

Ocon needs to learn that sometimes, just sometimes, going for the gap isn’t a good idea.
He must have learnt this from Max, was it Spa some years ago? Hopefully Max will have learnt that by now, who knows, he is rarely challenged at the moment.

TheDeuce

22,872 posts

69 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Milkyway said:
TheDeuce said:
Still Mulling said:
To me, Ocon is arrogant, entitled, and overrated.
Have you ever been to France? whistle
Perhaps he should have a horn fitted... or is that the Italians.
Based on my experience of driving in both countries I would say:

The Italians use the horn more than the French, although the French use it often enough too.

The French seem to have more avoidable minor crashes than the Italians, or in fact just about any other race of people. And by 'avoidable' I mean, I think they often crunch into other cars because they simply don't care, or because it's convenient smile

Actually I can ramp up the stereotyping a little more - the Italians shout and scream and wave their arms around if they drive in to you. The French just get out and shrug.


Overall I guess I would say the Italians make better racing drivers.. But really you're probably better off with a Brit, German or Finn biggrin

Nova Gyna

1,358 posts

29 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Still Mulling said:
To me, Ocon is arrogant, entitled, and overrated. I’d happily lose him from the grid.
Agree completely. He's unpredictably dangerous. Some of the moves he pulled on Alonso during their time together were downright scary.

Bo_apex

2,674 posts

221 months

Tuesday 28th May
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MustangGT said:
Muzzer79 said:
Adrian W said:
Hopefully he will get offered a drive of a good car
So he can regularly try and take his team mate out in that instead?

Ocon needs to learn that sometimes, just sometimes, going for the gap isn’t a good idea.
He must have learnt this from Max, was it Spa some years ago? Hopefully Max will have learnt that by now, who knows, he is rarely challenged at the moment.
Crashing into team mate. Lewis learned that from Max

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/hamilto...