Christian Horner
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DonkeyApple said:
Byker28i said:
I see the usual suspects decided to go with personal attacks again. Shame it has to go to that rather than discussing as we have previously, but then i rd easier than trying to defend your posirion.
Obsessive? Look at all your posts on defending horny..
Again, there's no need for personal attacks and if ask you again to desist
My point all along has been they tried to sweep it under the carpet and it hasn't worked.
Oh and we'll done to the person who predicted Horny would stroll down the pit lane with Newry
Chap, you're the one being called out for the personal attacks. You need to calm down, take a step back and return after having a bit of a think. Obsessive? Look at all your posts on defending horny..
Again, there's no need for personal attacks and if ask you again to desist
My point all along has been they tried to sweep it under the carpet and it hasn't worked.
Oh and we'll done to the person who predicted Horny would stroll down the pit lane with Newry
Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 4th May 09:16
It's important that you understand that not agreeing with your extreme view is not to be defending CH. That is a correlation that you have fabricated and one that is actually quite offensive.
Throughout the thread anyone who hasn't 100% agreed with your extreme perspective has received remarks from you, and calling such as 'horny apologists', usually a couple of posts removed opposed to actually facing that person directly. And now you have the audacity to complain about personal attacks? Come on lad, get a grip. All people are doing is talking about the situation without taking an extreme view or deliberately misinterpreting reality or massively curve fitting any snippets to fit an agenda.
Just take a break. You're not the actual victim in the saga and I think it's pretty poor form to be trying to inveigle oneself into the situation of others as a victim. It's poor form to be name calling. It's insulting to be fabricating correlations.
Just to make it 100% clear: not agreeing with your extreme viewpoint and preferring to wait for evidence and process is not defending CH it is simply being an adult.
How can you two be arsed to type so much about nothing? just to squabble.
jasonrobertson86 said:
How can you two be arsed to type so much about nothing? just to squabble.
DonkeyApple said:
In my case it is simply because someone sought to accuse me of something that I hadn't done. I probably should have ignored it as it was so asinine but I really don't like that sort of behaviour and have no respect for those who do so.
true. not worth bothering. its just the tinternet....PhilAsia said:
I ignored the guff that was headline news initially. An affair is none of my business after all. However, I took umbrage to those that seemingly defended Horner's actions when the leaked messages to the media were made known. If are to be believed, and I think they are, there is every reason to take the view that Horner is a sex pest that does not understand "NO", and bullying wimp with no moral compass - that is not fine, and indefensible IMO.
Agreed if the leaked screenshots are probably unbiased and show the whole picture but the problem is that not only are they neither but there were selected to specifically generate the public opinion that you refer to. As such the only sane action is that they must be discounted and held to the side until further evidence to support and corroborate comes to light. Just on point of principal one cannot allow oneself to be party to what is a classic tabloid/max Clifford style trick. And the same goes for the 'close friend' content. We just have to wait while also not being a casserole lacky to either side of what is a remarkably pathetic fiasco that does reveal some of the F1 reality the PR agents and marketers work so hard to cover over with the faux veneer of sophistication painted by doing things like renting celebs by the hour.
DonkeyApple said:
Agreed if the leaked screenshots are probably unbiased and show the whole picture but the problem is that not only are they neither but there were selected to specifically generate the public opinion that you refer to. As such the only sane action is that they must be discounted and held to the side until further evidence to support and corroborate comes to light. Just on point of principal one cannot allow oneself to be party to what is a classic tabloid/max Clifford style trick. And the same goes for the 'close friend' content.
We just have to wait while also not being a casserole lacky to either side of what is a remarkably pathetic fiasco that does reveal some of the F1 reality the PR agents and marketers work so hard to cover over with the faux veneer of sophistication painted by doing things like renting celebs by the hour.
Your long winded posts about Horner having no game and being a third rate clown by not hiring in a local sex worker are based on the WhatsApp messages content. You are equally guilty of what you accuse others of.We just have to wait while also not being a casserole lacky to either side of what is a remarkably pathetic fiasco that does reveal some of the F1 reality the PR agents and marketers work so hard to cover over with the faux veneer of sophistication painted by doing things like renting celebs by the hour.
You say those messages should be discounted, yet your posts use their content as reference.
Clearly those messages have relevance in this case, although likely selectively chosen for impact, they have not been denied by Horner as real. That is not his normal MO when confronted with issues he does not like, he often spins like a demented Mandleson.
DonkeyApple said:
Agreed if the leaked screenshots are probably unbiased and show the whole picture but the problem is that not only are they neither but there were selected to specifically generate the public opinion that you refer to. As such the only sane action is that they must be discounted and held to the side until further evidence to support and corroborate comes to light. Just on point of principal one cannot allow oneself to be party to what is a classic tabloid/max Clifford style trick. And the same goes for the 'close friend' content.
We just have to wait while also not being a casserole lacky to either side of what is a remarkably pathetic fiasco that does reveal some of the F1 reality the PR agents and marketers work so hard to cover over with the faux veneer of sophistication painted by doing things like renting celebs by the hour.
If those screenshots are genuine, and not photoshopped, how much “context” to you think Horny can add to avoid him looking like a totally sWe just have to wait while also not being a casserole lacky to either side of what is a remarkably pathetic fiasco that does reveal some of the F1 reality the PR agents and marketers work so hard to cover over with the faux veneer of sophistication painted by doing things like renting celebs by the hour.
tty boss who was banging his PA and got really upset when she called it off. Sandpit Steve said:
DonkeyApple said:
Agreed if the leaked screenshots are probably unbiased and show the whole picture but the problem is that not only are they neither but there were selected to specifically generate the public opinion that you refer to. As such the only sane action is that they must be discounted and held to the side until further evidence to support and corroborate comes to light. Just on point of principal one cannot allow oneself to be party to what is a classic tabloid/max Clifford style trick. And the same goes for the 'close friend' content.
We just have to wait while also not being a casserole lacky to either side of what is a remarkably pathetic fiasco that does reveal some of the F1 reality the PR agents and marketers work so hard to cover over with the faux veneer of sophistication painted by doing things like renting celebs by the hour.
If those screenshots are genuine, and not photoshopped, how much “context” to you think Horny can add to avoid him looking like a totally sWe just have to wait while also not being a casserole lacky to either side of what is a remarkably pathetic fiasco that does reveal some of the F1 reality the PR agents and marketers work so hard to cover over with the faux veneer of sophistication painted by doing things like renting celebs by the hour.
tty boss who was banging his PA and got really upset when she called it off. Literally all I can think of a claim that the messages were sent by someone else using the phone, or earlier exchanges where it was agreed, that they were going to act on messages as if it was inappropriate, and I don't see that as very likely.
Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 4th May 11:26
jasonrobertson86 said:
DonkeyApple said:
In my case it is simply because someone sought to accuse me of something that I hadn't done. I probably should have ignored it as it was so asinine but I really don't like that sort of behaviour and have no respect for those who do so.
true. not worth bothering. its just the tinternet....Christian Horner interviewed by Sky, says that Newey found regulation changes particularly stressful, suggesting that's why he's chosen now to depart
Adrian Newey interviewed by Sky, says that he's found the job stressful for a while and 'recent events' made his mind up. Oh.. and that regulation changes are the periods he enjoys most.
Horner is so unbelievably full of st
Adrian Newey interviewed by Sky, says that he's found the job stressful for a while and 'recent events' made his mind up. Oh.. and that regulation changes are the periods he enjoys most.
Horner is so unbelievably full of s
t He’s just nasty, snake like, and dishonourable, making apparently level but in reality snide remarks like that to diminish the contribution of someone who has delivered a lot for this team. Even more so if it’s not true (re stress). Not someone it’s possible to respect much. I don’t think there is anyone who better embodies ‘winning is more important than how you win’.
In fact, come to think of it, perhaps the whole Mercedes/red bull axis/rivalry/fan battles can be framed in terms of how you win/that you win terms.
In fact, come to think of it, perhaps the whole Mercedes/red bull axis/rivalry/fan battles can be framed in terms of how you win/that you win terms.
PlywoodPascal said:
He’s just nasty, snake like, and dishonourable, making apparently level but in reality snide remarks like that to diminish the contribution of someone who has delivered a lot for this team. Even more so if it’s not true (re stress). Not someone it’s possible to respect much. I don’t think there is anyone who better embodies ‘winning is more important than how you win’.
In fact, come to think of it, perhaps the whole Mercedes/red bull axis/rivalry/fan battles can be framed in terms of how you win/that you win terms.
I think the two teams attract very different fans...In fact, come to think of it, perhaps the whole Mercedes/red bull axis/rivalry/fan battles can be framed in terms of how you win/that you win terms.
As for Horner, he's really done some damage to the team. Zak said yesterday he's seen an increase in CV's coming from RBR as a result of Newey's announcement. Horner can spin it however he wishes, claim that everything is tickity-boo, but of course it's not.
TheDeuce said:
PlywoodPascal said:
He’s just nasty, snake like, and dishonourable, making apparently level but in reality snide remarks like that to diminish the contribution of someone who has delivered a lot for this team. Even more so if it’s not true (re stress). Not someone it’s possible to respect much. I don’t think there is anyone who better embodies ‘winning is more important than how you win’.
In fact, come to think of it, perhaps the whole Mercedes/red bull axis/rivalry/fan battles can be framed in terms of how you win/that you win terms.
I think the two teams attract very different fans...In fact, come to think of it, perhaps the whole Mercedes/red bull axis/rivalry/fan battles can be framed in terms of how you win/that you win terms.
TheDeuce said:
As for Horner, he's really done some damage to the team. Horner can spin it however he wishes, claim that everything is tickity-boo, but of course it's not.
DittoTheDeuce said:
Christian Horner interviewed by Sky, says that Newey found regulation changes particularly stressful, suggesting that's why he's chosen now to depart
Adrian Newey interviewed by Sky, says that he's found the job stressful for a while and 'recent events' made his mind up. Oh.. and that regulation changes are the periods he enjoys most.
Horner is so unbelievably full of st
I noticed that too. It was very amusing.Adrian Newey interviewed by Sky, says that he's found the job stressful for a while and 'recent events' made his mind up. Oh.. and that regulation changes are the periods he enjoys most.
Horner is so unbelievably full of s
t It is extremely well known designers love regulation changes, it's far more interesting than finding another 1/00th in a stable well developed era.
I thought Horner had lost his mind saying that, it's just stupid.
732NM said:
TheDeuce said:
Christian Horner interviewed by Sky, says that Newey found regulation changes particularly stressful, suggesting that's why he's chosen now to depart
Adrian Newey interviewed by Sky, says that he's found the job stressful for a while and 'recent events' made his mind up. Oh.. and that regulation changes are the periods he enjoys most.
Horner is so unbelievably full of st
I noticed that too. It was very amusing.Adrian Newey interviewed by Sky, says that he's found the job stressful for a while and 'recent events' made his mind up. Oh.. and that regulation changes are the periods he enjoys most.
Horner is so unbelievably full of s
t It is extremely well known designers love regulation changes, it's far more interesting than finding another 1/00th in a stable well developed era.
I thought Horner had lost his mind saying that, it's just stupid.
t...I’m no Horner fan but regardless of his off track actions and slimyness he’s an out and out team principal, probably the best. He built a superb team that has dominated and if not dominating is always competitive. An imbecile he is not. I can’t think of anyone bar maybe toto who could have achieved what he has. His private life is just that, he alone needs to sort that out, it’s just been weaponised as part of the red bull ownership power struggle and we’re lapping it up. If he had done the same feats for a pseudo British team like Williams and Mc we’d be calling for knighthoods and to hell with the allegations.
Edited by Boom78 on Saturday 4th May 15:34
But it’s been made into that, it takes 2 to tango. I really couldn’t give a crap about what anyone (footballers, rugby players, F1 drivers and tiddlewink champions) gets up to in their own time providing it’s not illegal. He’s had an extramarital affair, not yours or my problem.
In the cesspit of modern F1, banging your (consulting) PA is sod all, I’m more worried about regime money entering F1, sports washing, shady dealing, poor transparency etc
In the cesspit of modern F1, banging your (consulting) PA is sod all, I’m more worried about regime money entering F1, sports washing, shady dealing, poor transparency etc
Edited by Boom78 on Saturday 4th May 15:59
Edited by Boom78 on Saturday 4th May 16:00
Edited by Boom78 on Saturday 4th May 16:05
Boom78 said:
But it’s been made into that, it takes 2 to tango. I really couldn’t give a crap about what anyone (footballers, rugby players, F1 drivers and tiddlewink champions) gets up to in their own time providing it’s not illegal. He’s had an extramarital affair, not yours or my problem.
The other person has made an official complaint and is now intent on taking it further.Edited by Boom78 on Saturday 4th May 15:59
Edited by Boom78 on Saturday 4th May 16:00
This is no longer 'in their own time'.
Boom78 said:
But it’s been made into that, it takes 2 to tango. I really couldn’t give a crap about what anyone (footballers, rugby players, F1 drivers and tiddlewink champions) gets up to in their own time providing it’s not illegal. He’s had an extramarital affair, not yours or my problem.
He has done something more than that. His employee is now suspended from work and bringing internal and external proceedings against him.Edited by Boom78 on Saturday 4th May 15:59
Edited by Boom78 on Saturday 4th May 16:00
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