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I wonder if carlos can see the p1 and p2 times. Maybe he just goes by what the fans suggest.
I doubt he would sign for the slowest team this weekend. Obviously if they win tomorrow its all ok again.
Maybe the return of Flavor Flav is part of an effort to get sainz in at Alpine.
I still think his best bet is gambling on Audi. If they make a strong PU it would hide all other deficits.
If Williams get a great Mercedes lump. They would still be behind all the other Mercedes runners.
I doubt he would sign for the slowest team this weekend. Obviously if they win tomorrow its all ok again.
Maybe the return of Flavor Flav is part of an effort to get sainz in at Alpine.
I still think his best bet is gambling on Audi. If they make a strong PU it would hide all other deficits.
If Williams get a great Mercedes lump. They would still be behind all the other Mercedes runners.
hondajack85 said:
I wonder if carlos can see the p1 and p2 times. Maybe he just goes by what the fans suggest.
I doubt he would sign for the slowest team this weekend. Obviously if they win tomorrow its all ok again.
Maybe the return of Flavor Flav is part of an effort to get sainz in at Alpine.
I still think his best bet is gambling on Audi. If they make a strong PU it would hide all other deficits.
If Williams get a great Mercedes lump. They would still be behind all the other Mercedes runners.
Strange logic, a strong Audi PU would hide all the other deficits but a great Merc lump wouldn’t do much for Williams? If the Audi is fundamentallly flawed a strong engine won’t help… see Williams and RB Cash App blah blah now.I doubt he would sign for the slowest team this weekend. Obviously if they win tomorrow its all ok again.
Maybe the return of Flavor Flav is part of an effort to get sainz in at Alpine.
I still think his best bet is gambling on Audi. If they make a strong PU it would hide all other deficits.
If Williams get a great Mercedes lump. They would still be behind all the other Mercedes runners.
Actually Gasly and Saintz would be a good pairing. Gasly (as much of a fan as I am of his) needs managing, when he has a team mantle he can get along with or beat he’s a great driver but folds in a pressure cooker.
Saintz has the ability and more importantly the attitude not to get too distracted by his team mates.
It’s the reason I think he’d be so good at red bull but as we know Horny isn’t going to let that happen (though why I’ve no idea as I genuinely believe max would have that extra over him regardless).
Saintz has the ability and more importantly the attitude not to get too distracted by his team mates.
It’s the reason I think he’d be so good at red bull but as we know Horny isn’t going to let that happen (though why I’ve no idea as I genuinely believe max would have that extra over him regardless).
PRO5T said:
Actually Gasly and Saintz would be a good pairing. Gasly (as much of a fan as I am of his) needs managing, when he has a team mantle he can get along with or beat he’s a great driver but folds in a pressure cooker.
Saintz has the ability and more importantly the attitude not to get too distracted by his team mates.
It’s the reason I think he’d be so good at red bull but as we know Horny isn’t going to let that happen (though why I’ve no idea as I genuinely believe max would have that extra over him regardless).
I firmly believe that Checo is at RBR to make Max look like an absolute rock star, dominating all those that dare to test. It goes with the Red Bull image. Saintz has the ability and more importantly the attitude not to get too distracted by his team mates.
It’s the reason I think he’d be so good at red bull but as we know Horny isn’t going to let that happen (though why I’ve no idea as I genuinely believe max would have that extra over him regardless).
Of course he is a rock star... but Checo, seriously???
PhilAsia said:
PRO5T said:
Actually Gasly and Saintz would be a good pairing. Gasly (as much of a fan as I am of his) needs managing, when he has a team mantle he can get along with or beat he’s a great driver but folds in a pressure cooker.
Saintz has the ability and more importantly the attitude not to get too distracted by his team mates.
It’s the reason I think he’d be so good at red bull but as we know Horny isn’t going to let that happen (though why I’ve no idea as I genuinely believe max would have that extra over him regardless).
I firmly believe that Checo is at RBR to make Max look like an absolute rock star, dominating all those that dare to test. It goes with the Red Bull image. Saintz has the ability and more importantly the attitude not to get too distracted by his team mates.
It’s the reason I think he’d be so good at red bull but as we know Horny isn’t going to let that happen (though why I’ve no idea as I genuinely believe max would have that extra over him regardless).
Of course he is a rock star... but Checo, seriously???
But the more important observation is that if Max is indeed that little bit quicker than everyone else Checo isn’t actually that bad. He’s just putting the Red Bull where it sort of naturally is.
So the Red Bull isn’t actually as great as it looks. It’s just being driven by a generational talent who can get the best out of it.
PRO5T said:
Andrew Benson was saying this weekend, there’s a theory going around the other teams that Max has about two to three tenths on all the other drivers on the grid-he’s that good.
But the more important observation is that if Max is indeed that little bit quicker than everyone else Checo isn’t actually that bad. He’s just putting the Red Bull where it sort of naturally is.
So the Red Bull isn’t actually as great as it looks. It’s just being driven by a generational talent who can get the best out of it.
I doubt that personally. But we’ll never know until he accepts a drive next to someone else at the sharp end. But the more important observation is that if Max is indeed that little bit quicker than everyone else Checo isn’t actually that bad. He’s just putting the Red Bull where it sort of naturally is.
So the Red Bull isn’t actually as great as it looks. It’s just being driven by a generational talent who can get the best out of it.
Leithen said:
PRO5T said:
Andrew Benson was saying this weekend, there’s a theory going around the other teams that Max has about two to three tenths on all the other drivers on the grid-he’s that good.
But the more important observation is that if Max is indeed that little bit quicker than everyone else Checo isn’t actually that bad. He’s just putting the Red Bull where it sort of naturally is.
So the Red Bull isn’t actually as great as it looks. It’s just being driven by a generational talent who can get the best out of it.
I doubt that personally. But we’ll never know until he accepts a drive next to someone else at the sharp end. But the more important observation is that if Max is indeed that little bit quicker than everyone else Checo isn’t actually that bad. He’s just putting the Red Bull where it sort of naturally is.
So the Red Bull isn’t actually as great as it looks. It’s just being driven by a generational talent who can get the best out of it.
Edited by ajprice on Monday 24th June 09:15
hondajack85 said:
What with the mercedes coming along in leaps and bounds it must raise a question mark about toto and his experiments.
Can he risk a middling f2 driver in a car that could bring them next years constructors title at the least?
No wonder Sainz aint jumping on any easy options.
The problem for Sainz now is whetever he goes he's writing off next year and gambling on 26 not being a write off also. He's wise not to be in a rush to sign to anyone. FWIW if I was him I think I'd take the 25 sacrifice and gamble on the Williams. Unless the Audi offer is generational wealth levels of cash anyway... Can he risk a middling f2 driver in a car that could bring them next years constructors title at the least?
No wonder Sainz aint jumping on any easy options.
Also FWIW I think Ferrari have made an error signing Hamilton, not because he won't perform, but they have one of the most competitive and harmonious driver pairings on the grid that have both proven when the car is quick enough they'll win. Taking Sainz out and putting Hamilton into 'Leclerc's team' is a high risk move tbat may well set fire to all that.
It'll be bloody brilliant to watch when the inevitable drama does come next year though.
Edited by DanielSan on Monday 24th June 09:29
honda_exige said:
Flavio and Carlos Sainz Snr spotted swapping numbers today....
Alpine looking increasingly like the potential best choice Jnr has, based on their improving pace relative to Haas/Williams/Sauber. Gasly was only 0.1sec off qualifying in the Top 3 this weekend.
The Alpine may be becoming a faster car, but I don't think the chaos that has become the management of the team can be described as 'best choice'Alpine looking increasingly like the potential best choice Jnr has, based on their improving pace relative to Haas/Williams/Sauber. Gasly was only 0.1sec off qualifying in the Top 3 this weekend.
I'd rather the relative stability of Williams than the implosion that Alpine is fast becoming.
DanielSan said:
hondajack85 said:
What with the mercedes coming along in leaps and bounds it must raise a question mark about toto and his experiments.
Can he risk a middling f2 driver in a car that could bring them next years constructors title at the least?
No wonder Sainz aint jumping on any easy options.
The problem for Sainz now is whetever he goes he's writing off next year and gambling on 26 not being a write off also. He's wise not to be in a rush to sign to anyone. FWIW if I was him I think I'd take the 25 sacrifice and gamble on the Williams. Unless the Audi offer is generational wealth levels of cash anyway... Can he risk a middling f2 driver in a car that could bring them next years constructors title at the least?
No wonder Sainz aint jumping on any easy options.
Also FWIW I think Ferrari have made an error signing Hamilton, not because he won't perform, but they have one of the most competitive and harmonious driver pairings on the grid that have both proven when the car is quick enough they'll win. Taking Sainz out and putting Hamilton into 'Leclerc's team' is a high risk move tbat may well set fire to all that.
It'll be bloody brilliant to watch when the inevitable drama does come next year though.
Edited by DanielSan on Monday 24th June 09:29
Hamilton vs LeClerc will be Fireworks for sure. Charles has an overrated opinion of himself, he's fast but has yet to show he's the future of Ferrari and Hamilton doesn't show to much quarter to his teammates. No way will he want to be qualifying 2/tenths down on Charles from the start. I'd like to be proved wrong but I still don't see what Ferrari are looking to get out of Hamilton they don't get from Sainz.
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