The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

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Hustle_

25,138 posts

165 months

Saturday 15th June
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the-norseman said:
He's not doing that great in F2 though is he? At best on current form I'd say a Williams seat. Unless he wins F2 champ this season, let him have another season in F2.
That isn’t really the way it is recently. F2 is clogged with career F2 drivers with one or more seasons under their belt, some of them very good at F2 now. Teams can’t really expect rookie championship wins anymore.

Smollet

11,341 posts

195 months

Saturday 15th June
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Hustle_ said:
Can we all unilaterally agree to shorten ‘Andrea Kimi Antonelli’ to something other than ‘Kimi’ hehe
Absolutely. Kant

vaud

Original Poster:

51,763 posts

160 months

Saturday 15th June
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Hustle_ said:
Can we all unilaterally agree to shorten ‘Andrea Kimi Antonelli’ to something other than ‘Kimi’ hehe
AKA for sure.

Hustle_

25,138 posts

165 months

Saturday 15th June
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Smollet said:
Hustle_ said:
Can we all unilaterally agree to shorten ‘Andrea Kimi Antonelli’ to something other than ‘Kimi’ hehe
Absolutely. Kant
Bit unnecessary hehe

TheDeuce

24,283 posts

71 months

Saturday 15th June
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Hustle_ said:
the-norseman said:
He's not doing that great in F2 though is he? At best on current form I'd say a Williams seat. Unless he wins F2 champ this season, let him have another season in F2.
That isn’t really the way it is recently. F2 is clogged with career F2 drivers with one or more seasons under their belt, some of them very good at F2 now. Teams can’t really expect rookie championship wins anymore.
That's very true. Sponsors are throwing money at F2 these days and quite a few drivers are now probably earning a very healthy income from their F2 exploits.. and when they do eventually move on it seems more head to indycar than F1 these days! F2 is a feeder series for Indycar smile

honda_exige

6,409 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th June
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TheDeuce said:
Hustle_ said:
the-norseman said:
He's not doing that great in F2 though is he? At best on current form I'd say a Williams seat. Unless he wins F2 champ this season, let him have another season in F2.
That isn’t really the way it is recently. F2 is clogged with career F2 drivers with one or more seasons under their belt, some of them very good at F2 now. Teams can’t really expect rookie championship wins anymore.
That's very true. Sponsors are throwing money at F2 these days and quite a few drivers are now probably earning a very healthy income from their F2 exploits.. and when they do eventually move on it seems more head to indycar than F1 these days! F2 is a feeder series for Indycar smile
Which is ironic given the relative superlicence points each series gets

8Ace

2,726 posts

203 months

Saturday 15th June
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Hustle_ said:
Can we all unilaterally agree to shorten ‘Andrea Kimi Antonelli’ to something other than ‘Kimi’ hehe
Auntie Nellie?

TheDeuce

24,283 posts

71 months

Saturday 15th June
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vaud said:
Hustle_ said:
Can we all unilaterally agree to shorten ‘Andrea Kimi Antonelli’ to something other than ‘Kimi’ hehe
AKA for sure.
I like that!

Technically it would be 'Andrea AKA AKA'.

vaud

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51,763 posts

160 months

Saturday 15th June
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TheDeuce said:
I like that!

Technically it would be 'Andrea AKA AKA'.
biggrin

Stan the Bat

9,179 posts

217 months

Saturday 15th June
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vaud said:
TheDeuce said:
I like that!

Technically it would be 'Andrea AKA AKA'.
biggrin
Getting a bit 'shooting stars' now.

TheDeuce

24,283 posts

71 months

Saturday 15th June
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Stan the Bat said:
vaud said:
TheDeuce said:
I like that!

Technically it would be 'Andrea AKA AKA'.
biggrin
Getting a bit 'shooting stars' now.
It is. But AKA wouldn't be a bad nickname and could be attention grabbing in headlines and for sponsors. Perhaps he should go with it...

hondajack85

196 posts

4 months

Saturday 15th June
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8Ace said:
Hustle_ said:
Can we all unilaterally agree to shorten ‘Andrea Kimi Antonelli’ to something other than ‘Kimi’ hehe
Auntie Nellie?
As far as im concered this is it now, and will be used in any future reference to the sainz crushing wonder kid.

Still Mulling

13,156 posts

182 months

Saturday 15th June
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Hustle_ said:
Can we all unilaterally agree to shorten ‘Andrea Kimi Antonelli’ to something other than ‘Kimi’ hehe
Leave us alone. We know what we’re doing!

TheDeuce

24,283 posts

71 months

Saturday 15th June
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Actually, given his middle name is in honour of Kimi Raikkonen, it's probably reasonable to just call him Kimi..

Unless he's crap, in which case that honour will be stripped.

cuprabob

15,383 posts

219 months

Saturday 15th June
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Still Mulling said:
Hustle_ said:
Can we all unilaterally agree to shorten ‘Andrea Kimi Antonelli’ to something other than ‘Kimi’ hehe
Leave us alone. We know what we’re doing!
smile

wiliferus

4,112 posts

203 months

Sunday 16th June
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rallycross said:
I can’t see why Mercedes a global brand putting millions into F1 would risk putting a 17 year old into their car next year when Carlos Sainz is available.
Isn’t it more that Carlos wants a long term contract and Mercedes are only willing to offer a year? So more Carlos stalling rather than Mercedes not wanting him. Hence why the rumour is he’s off to Williams as they are offering him a multi year.

ralphrj

3,624 posts

196 months

Sunday 16th June
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wiliferus said:
rallycross said:
I can’t see why Mercedes a global brand putting millions into F1 would risk putting a 17 year old into their car next year when Carlos Sainz is available.
Isn’t it more that Carlos wants a long term contract and Mercedes are only willing to offer a year? So more Carlos stalling rather than Mercedes not wanting him. Hence why the rumour is he’s off to Williams as they are offering him a multi year.
Read an interesting story this week that said Mercedes simply isn't an option for Sainz. Toto Wolff's number 1 target for next year is Verstappen and Mercedes has signed off on a huge offer to induce him but so far there is no indication that Verstappen is going to use any clause in his contract to walk early. Wolff's back up plan in the event of not being able to prize Verstappen away from Red Bull is Antonelli - no other drivers are being considered.

Toto Wolff at Canada last weekend said:
Carlos deserves a top seat. He's done a fantastic job, but for us, we've embarked on a route now to say...we want to reinvent ourselves a little bit going forward and Kimi Antonelli definitely plays a part in that. We haven't taken a decision yet for next year but we didn't want to have Carlos wait as well because he needs to take the decisions for himself. That's just fair. He's doing a super job.

TheDeuce

24,283 posts

71 months

Sunday 16th June
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ralphrj said:
wiliferus said:
rallycross said:
I can’t see why Mercedes a global brand putting millions into F1 would risk putting a 17 year old into their car next year when Carlos Sainz is available.
Isn’t it more that Carlos wants a long term contract and Mercedes are only willing to offer a year? So more Carlos stalling rather than Mercedes not wanting him. Hence why the rumour is he’s off to Williams as they are offering him a multi year.
Read an interesting story this week that said Mercedes simply isn't an option for Sainz. Toto Wolff's number 1 target for next year is Verstappen and Mercedes has signed off on a huge offer to induce him but so far there is no indication that Verstappen is going to use any clause in his contract to walk early. Wolff's back up plan in the event of not being able to prize Verstappen away from Red Bull is Antonelli - no other drivers are being considered.

Toto Wolff at Canada last weekend said:
Carlos deserves a top seat. He's done a fantastic job, but for us, we've embarked on a route now to say...we want to reinvent ourselves a little bit going forward and Kimi Antonelli definitely plays a part in that. We haven't taken a decision yet for next year but we didn't want to have Carlos wait as well because he needs to take the decisions for himself. That's just fair. He's doing a super job.
Indeed, Merc (Toto) have unequivocally made it clear he's not getting an offer from them.

And tbh the Antonelli offer being dependent on Max not accepting his offer, whilst not officially confirmed, makes so much sense that I'm inclined to believe it..


hondajack85

196 posts

4 months

Tuesday 18th June
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According to some duff story I read, Carlos says he still has offers from all the teams not lineup confirmed yet.
Leaving out some, that would mean mercedes and aston martin.

honda_exige

6,409 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th June
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Related on a tangent but McLaren haven't covered themselves in glory with how they've handled their Indycar team this year.

After sacking David Malukas earlier this year because his recovery from a mountain biking accident was taking longer than expected (2 days after making statements that they're helping him with his recovery) they signed Theo Pouchaire for the rest of the season and explicitly stated as such on the press release.

Theo came in and has been doing very well for a rookie but now a couple of months later he's been sacked with 2 days notice to put Nolan Siegel in the car, because his dad is worth hundreds of millions and brings lots of $$$.

And Brown had the Temerity to describe RB as fostering a toxic atmosphere ha.

Poor chap, hope he gets another shot, another F2 champion available for F1 next year now...



Edited by honda_exige on Wednesday 19th June 10:39