Perez, The Elephant in the Room??
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Smollet said:
paulguitar said:
Zetec-S said:
Despite his poor performance again, I'll double down on my assertion last week that it isn't a bad decision by Red Bull to keep him another season.
They knew the car wasn't suited to Montreal, but despite that Max still won and in the WCC they only lost 3 points to McLaren and 4 points to Mercedes. Spain, Austria, Silverstone, Hungary all to come, I believe more suited to the Red Bull so I would expect Max to extend his lead. Checo will be top 6 in these and probably a couple of podiums too, McLaren, Ferrari and Merc will take points off each other so by the time the summer break arrives Red Bull will have an easy 100+ points advantage in the WDC.
Perez had an appalling weekend, even by his own standards,They knew the car wasn't suited to Montreal, but despite that Max still won and in the WCC they only lost 3 points to McLaren and 4 points to Mercedes. Spain, Austria, Silverstone, Hungary all to come, I believe more suited to the Red Bull so I would expect Max to extend his lead. Checo will be top 6 in these and probably a couple of podiums too, McLaren, Ferrari and Merc will take points off each other so by the time the summer break arrives Red Bull will have an easy 100+ points advantage in the WDC.
Qualified near the back, ran around near the back, had a crash of his own making and trailed around the circuit dropping bits of his car onto it.
If, as it looks like it might, there’s now four teams in the running for wins, then Red Bull got lucky with their good start to the season, and lucky again that the other three teams and their six good drivers will all take points from each other. If it had just been one other team up there, both Max and RB might have been getting a little worried.
PhilAsia said:
TheDeuce said:
They're obviously not serious about WCC. Maybe they win it, maybe they don't.. if they don't it'll be Perez's fault for sure. Do they care? Probably not - its about $7m difference in prize fund, Perez reportedly carries sponsorship of $40m. The Red Bull brand doesn't have road cars to sell so WCC value is further reduced for them.
They sell fizzy drinks, the best way to do that is to have Max looking like a God, nothing else matters. The subsequent drinks sales attributable to F1 participation alone dwarf the sort of money we're talking about in F1 championship terms.
Max is no doubt happy to have a team mate he leaves for dirt each weekend. The marketing men won't mind Max being made to look unbelievably good either.
I'm sure there are multiple ways they could eject Perez over the next two years should they wish to. But it's not 'hard to justify' why they've maintained the status quo for now. It's actually very easy to make sense of how it's justified.
People just don't like it because it's got nothing to do with racing and everything to do with marketing - but that's the reality, across much of F1.
Pretty much how I see it, and more succinctly put.They sell fizzy drinks, the best way to do that is to have Max looking like a God, nothing else matters. The subsequent drinks sales attributable to F1 participation alone dwarf the sort of money we're talking about in F1 championship terms.
Max is no doubt happy to have a team mate he leaves for dirt each weekend. The marketing men won't mind Max being made to look unbelievably good either.
I'm sure there are multiple ways they could eject Perez over the next two years should they wish to. But it's not 'hard to justify' why they've maintained the status quo for now. It's actually very easy to make sense of how it's justified.
People just don't like it because it's got nothing to do with racing and everything to do with marketing - but that's the reality, across much of F1.
Now, back to the "Perez, The Elephant in the Room??" and poignantly deadslow DumBo show...
FeelAsia knows more than Red Bull
Bo_apex said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
It's Red Bull's train set.
This gap is also big
Lewis Hamilton 2 - 7 George Russell
Oh, you’ve brought Lewis Hamilton into it, what a surprise!This gap is also big
Lewis Hamilton 2 - 7 George Russell
Aside from Canada, the gaps between the Merc drivers in Quali have been tiny.
Bo_apex said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
simply highlighted the gap between a great driver and a good driver in same car
I know you are very loyal, but do you think perhaps that gap is a bit too big? It's just a bit baffling, more than anything.
I recall the vultures on PH circling around Valtteri Bottas in 2021 when he dared to not be on the podium for every race, or challenging Hamilton for wins. He was doing a far superior job to Perez.
Ross Brawn always used to say that Eddie Irvine showed where the Ferrari truly was pace-wise and Schumacher got it further up the grid.
If Verstappen is similarly exceptional and Perez is the true measure of the Red Bull then RBR are in deep s
t.......i_alan_i said:
Bo_apex said:
It's Red Bull's train set.
This gap is also big
Lewis Hamilton 2 - 7 George Russell
Though Mercedes are getting rid of their underperforming driver by only offering a 1 year contract, which has led to him sulking off.This gap is also big
Lewis Hamilton 2 - 7 George Russell
"Still We Rise"
Muzzer79 said:
Ross Brawn always used to say that Eddie Irvine showed where the Ferrari truly was pace-wise and Schumacher got it further up the grid.
If Verstappen is similarly exceptional and Perez is the true measure of the Red Bull then RBR are in deep st.......
Agree with this.If Verstappen is similarly exceptional and Perez is the true measure of the Red Bull then RBR are in deep s
t.......The RB has lost it's momentum, if Max leaves they are in deep $hite
paulguitar said:
Do we think Red Bull will actually have Perez in the car for the whole 2 year contract? I think it is highly likely they will make a change for 2026.
One would have to say no but I think it depends on who else is available.If they put Liam Lawson in the RB next year and he smashes it (figuratively speaking) then I can imagine Perez getting a 'Dear John'
Tsunoda won't get into the RBR. Neither will Sainz, clearly. Ricciardo appears to have blown his chances. Albon appears to either be not interested or not required.
The only other scenario would be someone like a Lando Norris becoming available for some reason, but there's no way of predicting that now.
Muzzer79 said:
paulguitar said:
Do we think Red Bull will actually have Perez in the car for the whole 2 year contract? I think it is highly likely they will make a change for 2026.
One would have to say no but I think it depends on who else is available.If they put Liam Lawson in the RB next year and he smashes it (figuratively speaking) then I can imagine Perez getting a 'Dear John'
Tsunoda won't get into the RBR. Neither will Sainz, clearly. Ricciardo appears to have blown his chances. Albon appears to either be not interested or not required.
The only other scenario would be someone like a Lando Norris becoming available for some reason, but there's no way of predicting that now.
paulguitar said:
Perez had an appalling weekend, even by his own standards,
Qualified near the back, ran around near the back, had a crash of his own making and trailed around the circuit dropping bits of his car onto it.
And has been given a three place grid penalty at the next race for driving off with a damaged car.Qualified near the back, ran around near the back, had a crash of his own making and trailed around the circuit dropping bits of his car onto it.
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