Max Verstappen
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honda_exige said:
Windsor is a massive Verstappen fan- which he readily admits to ...which is possibly clouding his view, because he knows very well the difference between leaving a cars width entering a corner/ braking zone & leaving a cars width on the exit & it doesn't really matter whether not leaving that gap is by intentional steering input or just letting the car drift acrossanonymous_user said:
honda_exige said:
Windsor is a massive Verstappen fan- which he readily admits to ...which is possibly clouding his view, because he knows very well the difference between leaving a cars width entering a corner/ braking zone & leaving a cars width on the exit & it doesn't really matter whether not leaving that gap is by intentional steering input or just letting the car drift acrossArmco would sort out any confusion but doubt the FIA and Liberty are interested in firm track limits, it wouldn't generate days of media attention
StevieBee said:
Probably not. Not because you are wrong but an oddity of the British psyche is we don't like success. We prefer triers. Try as hard as you like and we'll support you but dare not ye succeed.
This is not just confined to F1 but applies to any sport or anything actually. Look at the vitriol aimed at Coldplay following their Glastonbury gig on Saturday over on the Music page!
This trope is often trotted out, but I don't recognise it myself. We genuinely celebrate success in sport; look at London 2012 - British athletes' success put a spring in the step of the nation. Look at the Euros. I don't like football myself, but it seems half the country were celebrating an absolutely shocking performance on Sunday.This is not just confined to F1 but applies to any sport or anything actually. Look at the vitriol aimed at Coldplay following their Glastonbury gig on Saturday over on the Music page!
What a large section of the population don't appreciate is success that brings riches. Hence the hate for Coldplay. There's a certain type of music fan that likes their bands poor and obscure.
Bo_apex said:
anonymous_user said:
honda_exige said:
Windsor is a massive Verstappen fan- which he readily admits to ...which is possibly clouding his view, because he knows very well the difference between leaving a cars width entering a corner/ braking zone & leaving a cars width on the exit & it doesn't really matter whether not leaving that gap is by intentional steering input or just letting the car drift acrossArmco would sort out any confusion but doubt the FIA and Liberty are interested in firm track limits, it wouldn't generate days of media attention
Personally, I think Austria cleared up the big problems, so then just let the drivers do what they want.
Peter Windsor, suggests Max didn't steer into Lando.... But Max did drift into him. According to the regs, Max should have steered away from Lando, to give him the car's width he's entitled to. Peter Windosr doesn't mention that, a bit biased methinks.
super7 said:
All circuits should implement the Austria solution..... just enough room to keep a wheel on the track, then into the kitty litter. If every corner had some jeopardy if you went off, then you don't need to monitor them.
Personally, I think Austria cleared up the big problems, so then just let the drivers do what they want.
Peter Windsor, suggests Max didn't steer into Lando.... But Max did drift into him. According to the regs, Max should have steered away from Lando, to give him the car's width he's entitled to. Peter Windosr doesn't mention that, a bit biased methinks.
I like Windsor, but I think he's wrong on this one. Verstappen had two goes at Norris (the second could potentially be down to his puncture) but then had a THIRD lunge at him after the corner...Personally, I think Austria cleared up the big problems, so then just let the drivers do what they want.
Peter Windsor, suggests Max didn't steer into Lando.... But Max did drift into him. According to the regs, Max should have steered away from Lando, to give him the car's width he's entitled to. Peter Windosr doesn't mention that, a bit biased methinks.
But that shot is one frame and doesn't show when they turn in. You can clearly see that Verstappen is pointing left so the "cars width" will only close if both maintain direction and I suspect a few frames further on there isn't a cars width and also creates the contact - which one can only conclude is caused by Verstappen squeezing Norris.
Not that hard and can see how the stewards reached their decision.
Not that hard and can see how the stewards reached their decision.
mycool said:
But that shot is one frame and doesn't show when they turn in. You can clearly see that Verstappen is pointing left so the "cars width" will only close if both maintain direction and I suspect a few frames further on there isn't a cars width and also creates the contact - which one can only conclude is caused by Verstappen squeezing Norris.
Not that hard and can see how the stewards reached their decision.
Indeed. You'd need to be mad or desperate for attention to suggest anything else.Not that hard and can see how the stewards reached their decision.
Bo_apex said:
anonymous_user said:
Yep. 1 meter left to play with.The cars width must be withing the track, within the white line.
It's remarkable how someone with a screen, keyboard and a screen-grab can possibly think their conclusions has any relevance when the the stewards have multiple data-feeds, experience, lots of camera angles, including feeds from the cars themselves, with steering input data.
And remarkable is not the adjective I first thought of.
And remarkable is not the adjective I first thought of.
TheDeuce said:
Bo_apex said:
anonymous_user said:
Yep. 1 meter left to play with.The cars width must be withing the track, within the white line.
PhilAsia said:
That is just too much information to sieve through though. He is still grappling with how to word his apology for not realising Max was found partially to blame for the Copse collision in '21.
well according to Bo's rules, Max did have about 12m to play with ...so that's about 49% partial blame in my bookGassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff