Max Verstappen
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carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
Winning by breaking the rules doesn't do it for me.
That's why you are not winning F1 Champs..... 
Michael and Max haven't won multiple championships by being tough b
ds, they won because they had very little competition. If anything, their style of racing costs them, particularly when they do have competition.
ie Silverstone and Monza '21, and last Sunday, Max could have finished 1st or 2nd in all 3 of those races, but his approach cost him on each occasion.
carlo996 said:
NRS said:
Why do people bother responding to Carlo? HE you can chat with, Carlo just posts for a windup.
You'd make a better point posting in legible English. But let me help you. I don't agree with what someone says, so I am going to attempt to diminish this by posting nothing.Let me know when you have something constructive. Meantime, dry those tears
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
It's just a natural reaction to dangerous and unsportsmanlike behaviour that most people share.
Other than that, Max is actually one of my favourite drivers - epically talented. Hit reckless streak however, is not something I can ignore just because he's great to watch the other 95% of the time.
And it is why I love flawed genius. Max is arguably the same Senna/Schumacher mold, they want to win at all costs, which perfectly aligns with my ideals. When you have the likes of Hill moaning, now Norris, for me it is a case of find a way. As for Stella lol, I am sure he's be singing a different tune if Max was in his team.Other than that, Max is actually one of my favourite drivers - epically talented. Hit reckless streak however, is not something I can ignore just because he's great to watch the other 95% of the time.
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
What a load of rubbish 
Lando tried several times to pass, at the only places he could possibly pass. The only high risk moves were Max's under braking, and then eventually 'not steering' into Lando by not steering enough to avoid colliding with him.
There's no safe way of passing a driver if they're minded to crash into you if you try.
The only rubbish is spouted by those who need to push their personal narrative, and have likely zero track experience themselves. Lando was naive, as you are in defending his knee jerk move. Lando tried several times to pass, at the only places he could possibly pass. The only high risk moves were Max's under braking, and then eventually 'not steering' into Lando by not steering enough to avoid colliding with him.
There's no safe way of passing a driver if they're minded to crash into you if you try.
You really do post some silly things looking for attention in F1 threads.
TheDeuce said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
It's just a natural reaction to dangerous and unsportsmanlike behaviour that most people share.
Other than that, Max is actually one of my favourite drivers - epically talented. Hit reckless streak however, is not something I can ignore just because he's great to watch the other 95% of the time.
And it is why I love flawed genius. Max is arguably the same Senna/Schumacher mold, they want to win at all costs, which perfectly aligns with my ideals. When you have the likes of Hill moaning, now Norris, for me it is a case of find a way. As for Stella lol, I am sure he's be singing a different tune if Max was in his team.Other than that, Max is actually one of my favourite drivers - epically talented. Hit reckless streak however, is not something I can ignore just because he's great to watch the other 95% of the time.
carlo996 said:
The only rubbish is spouted by those who need to push their personal narrative, and have likely zero track experience themselves. Lando was naive, as you are in defending his knee jerk move.
I've a lifetime of track experience, both behind the wheel and in the pits.You're posting complete nonsense, you always have when it comes to Max and his poor driving standards.
Dave200 said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
What a load of rubbish
Lando tried several times to pass, at the only places he could possibly pass. The only high risk moves were Max's under braking, and then eventually 'not steering' into Lando by not steering enough to avoid colliding with him.
There's no safe way of passing a driver if they're minded to crash into you if you try.
The only rubbish is spouted by those who need to push their personal narrative, and have likely zero track experience themselves. Lando was naive, as you are in defending his knee jerk move. Lando tried several times to pass, at the only places he could possibly pass. The only high risk moves were Max's under braking, and then eventually 'not steering' into Lando by not steering enough to avoid colliding with him.
There's no safe way of passing a driver if they're minded to crash into you if you try.
You really do post some silly things looking for attention in F1 threads.
I think his style is challenging, but i get what he says in that it does make for excitement, although IMO thats because you are always anticipating the dick move from max. What Carlo doesn't seem to get is that it can be equally exciting without being a dick but just doing good old fashioned wheel to wheel within the rules.
p1stonhead said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
It's just a natural reaction to dangerous and unsportsmanlike behaviour that most people share.
Other than that, Max is actually one of my favourite drivers - epically talented. Hit reckless streak however, is not something I can ignore just because he's great to watch the other 95% of the time.
And it is why I love flawed genius. Max is arguably the same Senna/Schumacher mold, they want to win at all costs, which perfectly aligns with my ideals. When you have the likes of Hill moaning, now Norris, for me it is a case of find a way. As for Stella lol, I am sure he's be singing a different tune if Max was in his team.Other than that, Max is actually one of my favourite drivers - epically talented. Hit reckless streak however, is not something I can ignore just because he's great to watch the other 95% of the time.
Meet the new 2024 Max same as the old 2021 Max, I knew as soon as someone got a car to challenge him he'd do the same, it's 2021 all over the again Max is ahead (on points) so it's move or we crash, he tried to brush it aside in his interviews but it'll happen again at Silverstone, he cannot (will not) race fairly.
p1stonhead said:
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
It's just a natural reaction to dangerous and unsportsmanlike behaviour that most people share.
Other than that, Max is actually one of my favourite drivers - epically talented. Hit reckless streak however, is not something I can ignore just because he's great to watch the other 95% of the time.
And it is why I love flawed genius. Max is arguably the same Senna/Schumacher mold, they want to win at all costs, which perfectly aligns with my ideals. When you have the likes of Hill moaning, now Norris, for me it is a case of find a way. As for Stella lol, I am sure he's be singing a different tune if Max was in his team.Other than that, Max is actually one of my favourite drivers - epically talented. Hit reckless streak however, is not something I can ignore just because he's great to watch the other 95% of the time.
carlo996 said:
And it is why I love flawed genius. Max is arguably the same Senna/Schumacher mold, they want to win at all costs, which perfectly aligns with my ideals. When you have the likes of Hill moaning, now Norris, for me it is a case of find a way. As for Stella lol, I am sure he's be singing a different tune if Max was in his team.
It is not flawed genius, it is just flawed. He constantly proves that unless he has a field beating car he cannot win, if he does not have that car then he has to cheat which basically means he cannot win without an advantage.His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
simon_harris said:
It is not flawed genius, it is just flawed. He constantly proves that unless he has a field beating car he cannot win, if he does not have that car then he has to cheat which basically means he cannot win without an advantage.
His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
I found the post race interview revealing, too: after the incident debate, all about how poor the team performance, the strategy & the car was, but no acknowledgement of his part in that.His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
MarkwG said:
simon_harris said:
It is not flawed genius, it is just flawed. He constantly proves that unless he has a field beating car he cannot win, if he does not have that car then he has to cheat which basically means he cannot win without an advantage.
His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
I found the post race interview revealing, too: after the incident debate, all about how poor the team performance, the strategy & the car was, but no acknowledgement of his part in that.His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
Yes, any proper fan would. The rules are the rules. One of Vettels titles was won this way, yes it was a bit boring, but making up the rules on the spot makes the entire thing pointless.
p1stonhead said:
MarkwG said:
simon_harris said:
It is not flawed genius, it is just flawed. He constantly proves that unless he has a field beating car he cannot win, if he does not have that car then he has to cheat which basically means he cannot win without an advantage.
His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
I found the post race interview revealing, too: after the incident debate, all about how poor the team performance, the strategy & the car was, but no acknowledgement of his part in that.His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
Yes, any proper fan would. The rules are the rules. One of Vettels titles was won this way, yes it was a bit boring, but making up the rules on the spot makes the entire thing pointless.
simon_harris said:
p1stonhead said:
MarkwG said:
simon_harris said:
It is not flawed genius, it is just flawed. He constantly proves that unless he has a field beating car he cannot win, if he does not have that car then he has to cheat which basically means he cannot win without an advantage.
His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
I found the post race interview revealing, too: after the incident debate, all about how poor the team performance, the strategy & the car was, but no acknowledgement of his part in that.His absence of a moral code that says it is okay to cheat should not be revered or celebrated.
Yes, any proper fan would. The rules are the rules. One of Vettels titles was won this way, yes it was a bit boring, but making up the rules on the spot makes the entire thing pointless.
It’s bizarre.
Even if they cancelled AD’s result and Max won on count back, at least he would have won in a reasonably understandable way.
carlo996 said:
TheDeuce said:
Winning by breaking the rules doesn't do it for me.
That's why you are not winning F1 Champs..... There's nothing wrong with hard competition - pushing to the rules to the limits and not giving an inch.
But breaking the rules is not acceptable in any sport - otherwise, what's the point in rules?
732NM said:
carlo996 said:
The only rubbish is spouted by those who need to push their personal narrative, and have likely zero track experience themselves. Lando was naive, as you are in defending his knee jerk move.
I've a lifetime of track experience, both behind the wheel and in the pits.You're posting complete nonsense, you always have when it comes to Max and his poor driving standards.
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