Max Verstappen
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paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Vertappoen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
Yeahh I thought that and it seems it's not been mentioned anywhere, it's looks to me as if Verstappen went for a second deliberate turn in and intentional hit on Norris to make sure Norris' race is ruined. paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Vertappoen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
You could half believe that he moved right to get off the racing line having noticed he had a puncture - until you see his helmet clearly turned and looking in his right hand mirror at what Norris was up to, throughout the sequence. He had every intention of trying to run the McLaren off and into the wall. paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Verstappen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
I thought the same first time I saw it but I'm not sure if the second hit was at least partially as a result of Max's puncture.Edited by paulguitar on Monday 1st July 14:50
Basil Brush said:
paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Verstappen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
I thought the same first time I saw it but I'm not sure if the second hit was at least partially as a result of Max's puncture.Edited by paulguitar on Monday 1st July 14:50
MustangGT said:
Bo_apex said:
MustangGT said:
heebeegeetee said:
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Muzzer79 said:
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mattikake said:
We have the MV rule for moving in braking zones, I think there now needs to be a MV punishment. If you force another car into retirement you should be automatically DSQ'd. He's extended his championship lead by 11 points. If it had finished 1-2 he's have only extended that lead by 7 points (6 with LN having fastest lap, which MV also had the opportunity to take that away from him).
Agreed. Your proposed rule should have been applied at Silverstone '21.Let's not go there eh?
paulguitar said:
Basil Brush said:
paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Verstappen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
I thought the same first time I saw it but I'm not sure if the second hit was at least partially as a result of Max's puncture.Edited by paulguitar on Monday 1st July 14:50
I'm not trying to defend him in anyway. He and Marc Marquez have way too much in common for me!
Basil Brush said:
paulguitar said:
Basil Brush said:
paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Verstappen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
I thought the same first time I saw it but I'm not sure if the second hit was at least partially as a result of Max's puncture.Edited by paulguitar on Monday 1st July 14:50
I'm not trying to defend him in anyway. He and Marc Marquez have way too much in common for me!
Bo_apex said:
MustangGT said:
Bo_apex said:
MustangGT said:
heebeegeetee said:
Bo_apex said:
Muzzer79 said:
Bo_apex said:
mattikake said:
We have the MV rule for moving in braking zones, I think there now needs to be a MV punishment. If you force another car into retirement you should be automatically DSQ'd. He's extended his championship lead by 11 points. If it had finished 1-2 he's have only extended that lead by 7 points (6 with LN having fastest lap, which MV also had the opportunity to take that away from him).
Agreed. Your proposed rule should have been applied at Silverstone '21.Let's not go there eh?
mattikake said:
We have the MV rule for moving in braking zones, I think there now needs to be a MV punishment. If you force another car into retirement you should be automatically DSQ'd. He's extended his championship lead by 11 points. If it had finished 1-2 he's have only extended that lead by 7 points (6 with LN having fastest lap, which MV also had the opportunity to take that away from him).
Mathematically ,a win for Max.hot metal said:
mattikake said:
We have the MV rule for moving in braking zones, I think there now needs to be a MV punishment. If you force another car into retirement you should be automatically DSQ'd. He's extended his championship lead by 11 points. If it had finished 1-2 he's have only extended that lead by 7 points (6 with LN having fastest lap, which MV also had the opportunity to take that away from him).
Mathematically ,a win for Max.So every corner was less Curved and more [rash-u-lose.
paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Verstappen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
While I am not defending Max, that " second lunge" was post puncture, after the initial contact with Lando, so, the car would be a bit all over the place ,so I wouldn`t pin that on him. Edited by paulguitar on Monday 1st July 14:50
hot metal said:
paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Verstappen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
While I am not defending Max, that " second lunge" was post puncture, after the initial contact with Lando, so, the car would be a bit all over the place ,so I wouldn`t pin that on him. Edited by paulguitar on Monday 1st July 14:50
spikyone said:
If you must insist on dragging up Silverstone you could at least acknowledge that the stewards decided Hamilton was not 100% to blame. Unlike yesterday, and pretty much every other collision Max has been involved in.
I wonder what the common denominator is?
Silverstone annoys me. Or rather the loud stupid opinions afterwards!I wonder what the common denominator is?
Its the first lap so no one is going to be on the racing line side by side. LH had the right to be there on the apex. or slightly out from it. All MV had to do was not just blindly turn in and expect LH to disappear or drive off the track to the inside.
Obviously all the MV fanbois blamed LH 100% for it as LH was on the inside.
Yet when a few races later at Monza and MV was on the inside and LH on the outside. And they came together. The same MV fanbois still blamed LH! The absolute irony!
![rolleyes](/inc/images/rolleyes.gif)
The battles with LH over the years proved to me that MV simply cannot race wheel to wheel to the same level as the all time greats of the sport. And if your peer groups know that you are incapable of being fair, eventually they get tired of you, and start using it against you in other ways.
Basil Brush said:
I know he turned into Lando's car again, I just meant it may partly have been from fighting the rear of his car coming round with the tyre immediately deflating.
I'm not trying to defend him in anyway. He and Marc Marquez have way too much in common for me!
Difference here is Marc has his daft moments. (Thought far less these days than before) But they aren't every race and they aren't every battle. He CAN race safely alongside other and not take them down. (he generally over rides and crashes himself on his own) Ironically of the current gp grid. Pecco is the one that cant handle pressure of wheel to wheel. Which is handy as the GP24 is a rocketship, and he rarely needs to.I'm not trying to defend him in anyway. He and Marc Marquez have way too much in common for me!
I expect MM93 to knacker him next year
EmailAddress said:
hot metal said:
paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Verstappen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
While I am not defending Max, that " second lunge" was post puncture, after the initial contact with Lando, so, the car would be a bit all over the place ,so I wouldn`t pin that on him. Edited by paulguitar on Monday 1st July 14:50
![scratchchin](/inc/images/scratchchin.gif)
It's just that afterwards he managed to continue at the same pace all the way back to the pits and the car didn't appear to be divebombing across the track anymore..
EmailAddress said:
hot metal said:
paulguitar said:
I think the most unacceptable thing Verstappen did was have a second lunge at Norris to 'make sure'. It happens at around 8 seconds into the video below.
While I am not defending Max, that " second lunge" was post puncture, after the initial contact with Lando, so, the car would be a bit all over the place ,so I wouldn`t pin that on him. Edited by paulguitar on Monday 1st July 14:50
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