Official 2024 Austrian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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honda_exige said:
CheesecakeRunner said:
Are grid penalties going to start to be an issue for Max given his consumption of parts? Particularly using all his engine allocation this early on.
https://www.f1-fansite.com/2024-f1-season/2024-use...
They already said they expect to take one - I reckon possibly at Singapore so point loss is minimised or at Spa if they still think they will dominate. https://www.f1-fansite.com/2024-f1-season/2024-use...
honda_exige said:
Do wonder if that'll put gravel all over the road because they'll still abuse it. Wouldn't fancy a stone to the visor at 150. I know it gets criticism but put bumps there, so what if their suspension collapses. Risk and reward you can always keep it on the black stuff if you're worried.
Thanks PiaP! 
Often a bit of fun here; looking forward to a bit of argy-bargy on a short track with a seemingly tight field.
ChocolateFrog: bumps would work in the scenario of, "Leave them of risk breaking the car", but could send a car temporarily airborne if it runs too wide or is already in the process of an accident, negating any slowing that the tarmac is meant to provide before barrier impact. It would also prevent two cars exiting the final turn side-by-side if the one on the inside bullies the outer into a squeeze onto bumps.
Often a bit of fun here; looking forward to a bit of argy-bargy on a short track with a seemingly tight field.ChocolateFrog: bumps would work in the scenario of, "Leave them of risk breaking the car", but could send a car temporarily airborne if it runs too wide or is already in the process of an accident, negating any slowing that the tarmac is meant to provide before barrier impact. It would also prevent two cars exiting the final turn side-by-side if the one on the inside bullies the outer into a squeeze onto bumps.
Sprint weekend as well and with the Red Bull not being an easy dial in this season and having had issues here in the past few years, and given how well Norris goes here and how Mclaren is a great all-rounder, this has Norris/Mclaren written all over it.
At least he'll have lots of fans here dressed in papaya!
At least he'll have lots of fans here dressed in papaya!
Still Mulling said:
Thanks PiaP! Often a bit of fun here; looking forward to a bit of argy-bargy on a short track with a seemingly tight field.
ChocolateFrog: bumps would work in the scenario of, "Leave them of risk breaking the car", but could send a car temporarily airborne if it runs too wide or is already in the process of an accident, negating any slowing that the tarmac is meant to provide before barrier impact. It would also prevent two cars exiting the final turn side-by-side if the one on the inside bullies the outer into a squeeze onto bumps.
For example, bumps to stop them running wide at Monza caused this for an F3 car... Often a bit of fun here; looking forward to a bit of argy-bargy on a short track with a seemingly tight field.ChocolateFrog: bumps would work in the scenario of, "Leave them of risk breaking the car", but could send a car temporarily airborne if it runs too wide or is already in the process of an accident, negating any slowing that the tarmac is meant to provide before barrier impact. It would also prevent two cars exiting the final turn side-by-side if the one on the inside bullies the outer into a squeeze onto bumps.
SpudLink said:
Still Mulling said:
Thanks PiaP! Often a bit of fun here; looking forward to a bit of argy-bargy on a short track with a seemingly tight field.
ChocolateFrog: bumps would work in the scenario of, "Leave them of risk breaking the car", but could send a car temporarily airborne if it runs too wide or is already in the process of an accident, negating any slowing that the tarmac is meant to provide before barrier impact. It would also prevent two cars exiting the final turn side-by-side if the one on the inside bullies the outer into a squeeze onto bumps.
For example, bumps to stop them running wide at Monza caused this for an F3 car... Often a bit of fun here; looking forward to a bit of argy-bargy on a short track with a seemingly tight field.ChocolateFrog: bumps would work in the scenario of, "Leave them of risk breaking the car", but could send a car temporarily airborne if it runs too wide or is already in the process of an accident, negating any slowing that the tarmac is meant to provide before barrier impact. It would also prevent two cars exiting the final turn side-by-side if the one on the inside bullies the outer into a squeeze onto bumps.
Have a video, along with video of half a dozen more accidents caused by kerbs, several of which finished with drivers in the hospital and out for months.
Sandpit Steve said:
That image doesn’t really do justice to Peroni’s accident, which I remember watching live and being sure he was dead.
Yeah I think that crash was a real testament to how good modern single seaters have become in crashes but it was still a massive impact on the kerb (broke his back IIRC?) and without the halo it could have been very nasty landing upside down on the barrier too. Was there ever a G-force number published for the initial kerb impact, it looked huge?
kambites said:
Sandpit Steve said:
That image doesn’t really do justice to Peroni’s accident, which I remember watching live and being sure he was dead.
Yeah I think that crash was a real testament to how good modern single seaters have become in crashes but it was still a massive impact on the kerb (broke his back IIRC?) and without the halo it could have been very nasty landing upside down on the barrier too. Sandpit Steve said:
Alex Peroni and Sophia Floersch both suffered broken bones in the back, but looking at the accidents it’s amazing they both not only survived but completely recovered. It’s not very long ago that we’d see drivers suffer life-changing injures from similar incidents. Sophia’s 2018 F3 car didn’t have a Halo. Peroni would have had his lid hit the tyres in that sequence without the Halo, he could have been a lot more severely injured than he was.
If his helmet had hit the tire wall, he'd have been dead. I think Sophia Floersch was increadibly lucky in her crash, both in that the back of the car caught the catch fencing, slowing it down considerably before it hit the photographer's booth thing, and that she went into the booth thing at the angle and position that she did. She was slowed considerably further by the initial impact of the back of the car on the metal framework and then her helmet basically went through the viewing slot!As you say it's amazing that drivers can, whilst obviously not exactly walking away, be back to racing a few months after crashes like those.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 26th June 16:28
anonymous_user said:
paulguitar said:
kambites said:
I think Sophia Floersch was increadibly lucky in her crash, ]
That was an absolute shocker, that one.Looking forward to this one, even with the sprint shenanigans. Have seen some footage of the Dutch fans at the Euros, utterly mad but in a good way! There was much said last year about the Orange army at the Austrian GP, smoke & all, wonder how that will transpire this year?
Max for the win but hoping he'll be run close again.
Max for the win but hoping he'll be run close again.
Driveline Shunt said:
Looking forward to this one, even with the sprint shenanigans. Have seen some footage of the Dutch fans at the Euros, utterly mad but in a good way! There was much said last year about the Orange army at the Austrian GP, smoke & all, wonder how that will transpire this year?
Max for the win but hoping he'll be run close again.
There was some very untoward behaviour from the ‘fans’ at this event two years ago. Max for the win but hoping he'll be run close again.
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a4057700...
Hopefully the football fans stick with going to the football.
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