Official 2024 Austrian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2024 Austrian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

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Total Members Polled: 146

Verstappen: 34%
Perez: 0%
Norris: 42%
Piastri: 0%
Leclerc: 2%
Sainz: 1%
Hamilton: 10%
Russell: 12%
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The Vambo

6,769 posts

144 months

Saturday 29th June
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732NM said:
Adrian W said:
Why is Schiff talking
FTFY
You only say that because you hate women even though you love Bernie Collins or something. my head hurts, I need an emotional support day off work.

Likes Fast Cars

2,809 posts

168 months

Saturday 29th June
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Adrian W said:
Piastri has screwed Norris race, someone needs a word with him
Why? He made a clean overtake and he’s a racer. Both McL drivers are a class act, racers to the core. Let them race!

Adrian W

14,166 posts

231 months

Saturday 29th June
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paulguitar said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Think a few on here are forgetting that Piastri drives a Mclaren and not a Redbull.

He's not employed as Norris whipping boy and has every right to race for a result not sit behind norris hoping he wins.

Norris ruined his own race by not covering the inside to say a racer should hold station because his team mate might get a chance is ridiculous it's not as if Piastri sent it to the inside from miles away costing them both time either.

And anyway look at the result Max won comfortably Norris wasn't going to win that and neither was Piastri.
Agree, it's unfair to expect Piasti not to race. He's not there as a lackey like Perez. Not that Perez is ever anywhere near Verstappen, of course...
My point which seems to keep getting missed, the team should have told them to help each other and not slow each other by fighting

Chebble

1,919 posts

155 months

Saturday 29th June
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SmoothCriminal said:
Think a few on here are forgetting that Piastri drives a Mclaren and not a Redbull.

He's not employed as Norris whipping boy and has every right to race for a result not sit behind norris hoping he wins.

Norris ruined his own race by not covering the inside to say a racer should hold station because his team mate might get a chance is ridiculous it's not as if Piastri sent it to the inside from miles away costing them both time either.

And anyway look at the result Max won comfortably Norris wasn't going to win that and neither was Piastri.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. If Norris had the pace he would have cleared Piastri. As they say, catching is one thing, passing another.

Norris screwed his own race up by not defending into T4. A schoolboy error on a circuit where half of the overtakes are done into that corner. He’ll learn from it though. Bodes well for tomorrow.

Likes Fast Cars said:
Adrian W said:
Piastri has screwed Norris race, someone needs a word with him
Why? He made a clean overtake and he’s a racer. Both McL drivers are a class act, racers to the core. Let them race!
Agreed. Ridiculous to suggest Piastri should capitulate when there was a legitimate opportunity.

Edited by Chebble on Saturday 29th June 13:28

Likes Fast Cars

2,809 posts

168 months

Saturday 29th June
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SmoothCriminal said:
WTF Hulk got a ten second time penalty and 2 penalty points for NOT touching Alonso but making him run off track.

But you ram a car intentionally and you get a reprimand.

Honestly the stewards are clownworld.


Another effing useless decision by the FIA.

Diderot

7,581 posts

195 months

Saturday 29th June
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SmoothCriminal said:
Think a few on here are forgetting that Piastri drives a Mclaren and not a Redbull.

He's not employed as Norris whipping boy and has every right to race for a result not sit behind norris hoping he wins.

Norris ruined his own race by not covering the inside to say a racer should hold station because his team mate might get a chance is ridiculous it's not as if Piastri sent it to the inside from miles away costing them both time either.

And anyway look at the result Max won comfortably Norris wasn't going to win that and neither was Piastri.
Even Max suggested that it would be different if Norris had not been behind Piastri (obviously different), but he meant Norris would have given him more of a challenge.

Anyway, looking forward to Qually now.

Likes Fast Cars

2,809 posts

168 months

Saturday 29th June
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Diderot said:
Even Max suggested that it would be different if Norris had not been behind Piastri (obviously different), but he meant Norris would have given him more of a challenge.

Anyway, looking forward to Qually now.
McLaren pole? Fingers crossed!

paulguitar

24,434 posts

116 months

Saturday 29th June
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Likes Fast Cars said:
Diderot said:
Even Max suggested that it would be different if Norris had not been behind Piastri (obviously different), but he meant Norris would have given him more of a challenge.

Anyway, looking forward to Qually now.
McLaren pole? Fingers crossed!
Yep, fingers crossed for that.

I suspect a fairly easy Verstappen win tomorrow though, even from a start position not on the front row.



Likes Fast Cars

2,809 posts

168 months

Saturday 29th June
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paulguitar said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
Diderot said:
Even Max suggested that it would be different if Norris had not been behind Piastri (obviously different), but he meant Norris would have given him more of a challenge.

Anyway, looking forward to Qually now.
McLaren pole? Fingers crossed!
Yep, fingers crossed for that.

I suspect a fairly easy Verstappen win tomorrow though, even from a start position not on the front row.
Would love to see a feisty 3 way battle with Max versus both McLarens.

spikyone

1,515 posts

103 months

Saturday 29th June
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SmoothCriminal said:
WTF Hulk got a ten second time penalty and 2 penalty points for NOT touching Alonso but making him run off track.

But you ram a car intentionally and you get a reprimand.

Honestly the stewards are clownworld.


It was definitely a move worthy of a penalty, not far off the Rosberg line through that corner. Agree that the deliberate contact in Spain deserved a harsher penalty, but the stewards were right to penalise Hulkenberg here.

paulguitar

24,434 posts

116 months

Saturday 29th June
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Likes Fast Cars said:
paulguitar said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
Diderot said:
Even Max suggested that it would be different if Norris had not been behind Piastri (obviously different), but he meant Norris would have given him more of a challenge.

Anyway, looking forward to Qually now.
McLaren pole? Fingers crossed!
Yep, fingers crossed for that.

I suspect a fairly easy Verstappen win tomorrow though, even from a start position not on the front row.
Would love to see a feisty 3 way battle with Max versus both McLarens.
Absolutely!

SpudLink

6,158 posts

195 months

Saturday 29th June
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SmoothCriminal said:
WTF Hulk got a ten second time penalty and 2 penalty points for NOT touching Alonso but making him run off track.

But you ram a car intentionally and you get a reprimand.

Honestly the stewards are clownworld.


It’s almost impossible to take the sport seriously. Are we supposed to believe what Hulk did was more dangerous than what we saw last weekend?

Byker28i

62,300 posts

220 months

Saturday 29th June
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SpudLink said:
SmoothCriminal said:
WTF Hulk got a ten second time penalty and 2 penalty points for NOT touching Alonso but making him run off track.

But you ram a car intentionally and you get a reprimand.

Honestly the stewards are clownworld.


It’s almost impossible to take the sport seriously. Are we supposed to believe what Hulk did was more dangerous than what we saw last weekend?
It is the lack of consistancy

tertius

6,881 posts

233 months

Saturday 29th June
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CheesecakeRunner said:
WelshChris said:
Can someone explain “session time” and “track time” to me? - just switched for the sprint race and it was at 11 in the UK. What is the “track time” - I thought that was the race start?
Session time is the time the event actually starts on UK tv. Track time is the local time in the country the race is being held. On air is the UK time that Sky start waffling.
I do think "On air (UK time)"; "Session start (UK time)" and "Session start (local time)" would be a little bit more self-explanatory.

robscot

2,333 posts

193 months

Saturday 29th June
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Whats gone on with JV / CH now?!

Nova Gyna

1,336 posts

29 months

Saturday 29th June
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Byker28i said:
SpudLink said:
SmoothCriminal said:
WTF Hulk got a ten second time penalty and 2 penalty points for NOT touching Alonso but making him run off track.

But you ram a car intentionally and you get a reprimand.

Honestly the stewards are clownworld.


It’s almost impossible to take the sport seriously. Are we supposed to believe what Hulk did was more dangerous than what we saw last weekend?
It is the lack of consistancy
It’s utter bks, imo. What sort of mental gymnastics do you have to do to give Hulk 2 penalty points for that, but only give a reprimand to CLC and Stroll for intentionally ramming another car?


Petrus1983

9,067 posts

165 months

Saturday 29th June
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robscot said:
Whats gone on with JV / CH now?!
It's embarrassing for the team. CH needs to remember that unlike Toto, he's an employee.

PlywoodPascal

4,620 posts

24 months

Saturday 29th June
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Likes Fast Cars said:
Another effing useless decision by the FIA.
I noticed at the time that alonso deliberately drove off track, more than he had to, make hulks pass look worse.

I do think though if yo don’t leave room for your opponent to negotiate the corner then it’s not a legal pass.

Nova Gyna

1,336 posts

29 months

Saturday 29th June
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robscot said:
Whats gone on with JV / CH now?!
From the Horner thread.

Maxdecel said:

Jasandjules

70,095 posts

232 months

Saturday 29th June
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spikyone said:
It was definitely a move worthy of a penalty, not far off the Rosberg line through that corner. Agree that the deliberate contact in Spain deserved a harsher penalty, but the stewards were right to penalise Hulkenberg here.
Eh ? He locked his right front and then ran wide, the fact that Alonso was there meant he had to move out of the way, that's racing.

It is very, very different to what Max did to Charles in the same corner a few years back, and others have done to others too, just running them out wide as they try to go around the outside and force them over the sausage kerbs.

ETA - as for Lando, it is not for Piastri to hold back and let him go, but to fight. IF Lando had the pace he could have stayed in DRS and overtaken Piastri who was well out of DRS range of Max..