Official 2024 Canadian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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TheDeuce said:
Do we really think RBR have lost pace due to a change to their car?
I tend to think it's just that Macca and now Merc have made some small but important updates that have unlocked a chunk more performance, combined perhaps with the RBR not loving the recent circuits.
Ferrari have always been fairly close to the RBR this season, providing the circuit suits them.
I'm not seeing the sort of drop off we saw with Ferrari in 2019 - although in fairness at that time I initially argued that they hadn't been cheating... the cheat seemed too big!
Not sure Merc have caught up. It was one race, same as Ferrari in Monaco. McLaren are the ones constantly there. Ferrari are there more often than Merc who have been not really anywhere until this last race. So Mercedes have to continue like this, otherwise they lucked into a setup/track that worked for them. I tend to think it's just that Macca and now Merc have made some small but important updates that have unlocked a chunk more performance, combined perhaps with the RBR not loving the recent circuits.
Ferrari have always been fairly close to the RBR this season, providing the circuit suits them.
I'm not seeing the sort of drop off we saw with Ferrari in 2019 - although in fairness at that time I initially argued that they hadn't been cheating... the cheat seemed too big!
Piginapoke said:
HardtopManual said:
Were you on the Round Norfolk Epic PIAP?
I was! Did you do it too? My last ride was for Ben Hardwick's liver transplant in 1994/5(?) charity ride from Ealing to Oxford through the Chilterns, not doing justice on a friend's Reynolds 853, with Campagnolo gears. 'Twas a thing of beauty!
NRS said:
TheDeuce said:
Do we really think RBR have lost pace due to a change to their car?
I tend to think it's just that Macca and now Merc have made some small but important updates that have unlocked a chunk more performance, combined perhaps with the RBR not loving the recent circuits.
Ferrari have always been fairly close to the RBR this season, providing the circuit suits them.
I'm not seeing the sort of drop off we saw with Ferrari in 2019 - although in fairness at that time I initially argued that they hadn't been cheating... the cheat seemed too big!
Not sure Merc have caught up. It was one race, same as Ferrari in Monaco. McLaren are the ones constantly there. Ferrari are there more often than Merc who have been not really anywhere until this last race. So Mercedes have to continue like this, otherwise they lucked into a setup/track that worked for them. I tend to think it's just that Macca and now Merc have made some small but important updates that have unlocked a chunk more performance, combined perhaps with the RBR not loving the recent circuits.
Ferrari have always been fairly close to the RBR this season, providing the circuit suits them.
I'm not seeing the sort of drop off we saw with Ferrari in 2019 - although in fairness at that time I initially argued that they hadn't been cheating... the cheat seemed too big!
paulguitar said:
ghost83 said:
Sorry if it’s already been mentioned but what do we think to the reports from Lewis that merc are giving him tyres 3 degrees under temp during qualifying meaning he can’t switch them on and challenge
Where have you seen that? “Well, the tires were working throughout the weekend, then we got to qualifying and every time I went out of the garage, my tires were for some reason below on temperature.
“Every set was two or three degrees lower than it should have been, and you can’t catch it up and I couldn’t switch the tires on after that. That’s something we have to really look at because something went on with the blankets, I guess.”
https://www.sportskeeda.com/f1/news-my-tires-reaso...
Is he necessarily implying sabotage? IIRC there is a very strict upper limit on tyre temperatures in blankets and someone will be working pretty hard to ensure that they are as close as possible but not exceeding, to consider all kinds of variables. Ambient temps were probably lower than they would've thought. Russell's tyres may have also been slightly lower than the ideal but it wouldn't have been quite such a problem on the Mediums.
Yazza54 said:
He keeps hinting that something's going on but I just can't see it, the team need all the points they can get why would they sabotage him?
Every time stuff like this comes up I think the same thing. I know there has been the odd instance of very circumstantial self sacrifice in the past and of course some drivers get preferential treatment. But deliberate sabotage from a team of 1000 people directed at a driver who delivered them 6 DWC’s….? Yeah, seems far fetched. I think one of the few negatives around Lewis' personality is the immediate hints over a intra-team conspiracy when things aren't going to plan.
It's not the 1st time, but it does fire up the toxic fans, just look at GRs IG posts to see the toxicity over this plus people saying he had no right to overtake Lewis etc.
It's not the 1st time, but it does fire up the toxic fans, just look at GRs IG posts to see the toxicity over this plus people saying he had no right to overtake Lewis etc.
Yazza54 said:
NRS said:
TheDeuce said:
Do we really think RBR have lost pace due to a change to their car?
I tend to think it's just that Macca and now Merc have made some small but important updates that have unlocked a chunk more performance, combined perhaps with the RBR not loving the recent circuits.
Ferrari have always been fairly close to the RBR this season, providing the circuit suits them.
I'm not seeing the sort of drop off we saw with Ferrari in 2019 - although in fairness at that time I initially argued that they hadn't been cheating... the cheat seemed too big!
Not sure Merc have caught up. It was one race, same as Ferrari in Monaco. McLaren are the ones constantly there. Ferrari are there more often than Merc who have been not really anywhere until this last race. So Mercedes have to continue like this, otherwise they lucked into a setup/track that worked for them. I tend to think it's just that Macca and now Merc have made some small but important updates that have unlocked a chunk more performance, combined perhaps with the RBR not loving the recent circuits.
Ferrari have always been fairly close to the RBR this season, providing the circuit suits them.
I'm not seeing the sort of drop off we saw with Ferrari in 2019 - although in fairness at that time I initially argued that they hadn't been cheating... the cheat seemed too big!
I certainly think RBR still have a very healthy edge at most circuits. Unless there was something forcibly removed from the car/somethig they had to stop doing, there is no way the advantage they had at the start of the season can be fully diminished by the progress of others.
Merc have clearly made a jump with their latest front wing update, but still behind McLaren and Ferrari imo, let alone RBR.
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