The Official Japanese GP thread 2013

The Official Japanese GP thread 2013

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Chrisgr31

14,039 posts

270 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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RYH64E said:
If Massa wants another season in F1 then he's got to show the other teams that he's worth it, so some pressure to succeed in the last few races of this season, maybe more pressure than when he had a multi year Ferrari deal in his pocket.
However as far as I can see he has done this for the last couple of season, had a mediocre start to the season and then improved dramatically at the end of season when contract renewal comes round. If he drove as well at the beginning of the season as at the end he wouldnt be looking for a new drive!

007 VXR

64,187 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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Chrisgr31 said:
RYH64E said:
If Massa wants another season in F1 then he's got to show the other teams that he's worth it, so some pressure to succeed in the last few races of this season, maybe more pressure than when he had a multi year Ferrari deal in his pocket.
However as far as I can see he has done this for the last couple of season, had a mediocre start to the season and then improved dramatically at the end of season when contract renewal comes round. If he drove as well at the beginning of the season as at the end he wouldnt be looking for a new drive!
Is he realy going to fine one ? If so were ?

MiniMan64

18,149 posts

205 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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valais said:
jbudgie said:
Fine.
It would also give them the perfect reason to put DR in the car for a few races with less pressure and expectations.

To be honest once. Mark announced his exit, I'm surprised they didn't do it starightaway. Aside form this quali he hasn't exactly been setting the track on fire this year. (Aside from Korea wink)
While we're on the point, that was impressive work from Red Bull to rebuild that car in only a few days after the melted mess they received back last weekend.

valais

54,984 posts

170 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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007 VXR said:
Is he realy going to fine one ? If so were ?
His problem isn't money. I understand he carries about $15m from Petrobras.

Problem is, sponsor clash.

Lotus are with Total
Williams have Maldonado and Venezuelan oil
Etc

He needs a team with a minimal fuel sponsor that have a space...?

007 VXR

64,187 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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valais said:
007 VXR said:
Is he realy going to fine one ? If so were ?
His problem isn't money. I understand he carries about $15m from Petrobras.

Problem is, sponsor clash.

Lotus are with Total
Williams have Maldonado and Venezuelan oil
Etc

He needs a team with a minimal fuel sponsor that have a space...?
scratchchin

zac510

5,546 posts

221 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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007 VXR said:
scratchchin
back where he started? biggrin

valais

54,984 posts

170 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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zac510 said:
back where he started? biggrin
Well it might not be a bad choice, it looks strong at the moment - and they have enough design and engineering momentum to carry it forwards, compared to say FI or Williams right now.

Would be mid field but some good points opportunities I think, if he can take it on...

007 VXR

64,187 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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zac510 said:
007 VXR said:
scratchchin
back where he started? biggrin
Sorry, Iam Diswotsit paperbag

valais

54,984 posts

170 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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Sauber?

mp3manager

4,254 posts

211 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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MiniMan64 said:
While we're on the point, that was impressive work from Red Bull to rebuild that car in only a few days after the melted mess they received back last weekend.
They didn't. They used a different chassis, the one from Hungary IIRC

El Guapo

2,787 posts

205 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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1. Hamilton
2. Grosjean
3. Massa

Red Bulls to have a coming together.

Jasandjules

71,018 posts

244 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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jbudgie said:
He seems to be doing a pretty good job---think he will be around next year.
He will if he has the cash, he won't if it is on talent alone.

MiniMan64

18,149 posts

205 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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mp3manager said:
MiniMan64 said:
While we're on the point, that was impressive work from Red Bull to rebuild that car in only a few days after the melted mess they received back last weekend.
They didn't. They used a different chassis, the one from Hungary IIRC
Ah ah, missed that. How many chassis do they carry with them out there? Is the T-car a thing of the past?

Chrisgr31

14,039 posts

270 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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MiniMan64 said:
Ah ah, missed that. How many chassis do they carry with them out there? Is the T-car a thing of the past?
They certainly carry one spare chassis, whether its one per car or one per team I don't know. Think Marussia had to use the spare chassis this weekend after an accident on Friday.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

259 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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mp3manager said:
They didn't. They used a different chassis, the one from Hungary IIRC
Apparently the engine and gearbox survived, which surprised me.

Panda76

2,583 posts

165 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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E38Ross said:
Panda76 said:
Given that Mark is leaving F1 this year,has some contempt for Vettel and probably the team for unfavourable treatment in the past,and if he doesn't screw his start up ! I can't see him letting Vettel through.
Going to be a good start.
he might not let him through but he'll get past.

He's a quicker driver and even if he can't pass on track, around pit stop time Vettel will pull in a lap quick enough to pass Webber that way if needs be.

I hope Vettel wins driving
If Mark doesn't fk his start up:

a) no way will he let seb through
b) he will dog fight him for it
He will not not let seb through, Mark is done with with F1 . He thinks Sebs a wker and he will treat him as one..

It's going to be a great start

Chrisgr31

14,039 posts

270 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Gaz. said:
Quite a concentration of bonkers fans all dressed up there.
You will have seen the pictures from the circuit of the stands on Thursday. Masses of fans in the stand when there was no track action.

E38Ross

36,178 posts

227 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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The tough decision maker hehe

madbadger

11,662 posts

259 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Morning. :yawn: wavey

Daz68

3,529 posts

225 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Well just finished watching Bathurst and what a race, let's see if this will be as good.