If we ditched road tax, & put the cost on to fuel, how much

[stuart-b]

... would the cost of fuel go up by?

After reading another post, is it possible to do the maths on this?

Do they avoid it due to the lorries, coaches, etc?

Are the figures even available for how much fuel is bought, and how much the country gains in road fund?

How much does it cost to administer the road fund, less the extra money generated by fines?

I wonder at the end of it, how much fuel would go up for the average motorist, and the long distance lorry/coach driver....

Interesting thought, but probably extremely difficult to work out.

We would probably establish that 90% of "part time" road users pay for the other 10%.

[thinfourth2]

I think it's something silly like 5p a litre

It's probably just to justify the existence of an army of pen pushers

[v8will]

Ditch a tax? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[Sukh13]

The haulage would come to a halt and everything in shops would cost more and then the economy would start to slow.

[Fleckers]

buton my weekend toy I would only pay for time on the road, not time on the drive way

Just like the Misses car

Where as the company car and fuel, who cares

[Pigeon]

thinfourth2 said:

I think it's something silly like 5p a litre

It's probably just to justify the existence of an army of pen pushers

This.

Like so much pointless st, it's just another means of creating unnecessary work because people are too hidebound and stupid to ditch this ridiculous convention that says you have to make everyone spend all day every day working whether the work is actually useful or not.

[Conian]

If they abolished road tax then the half of swansea that isnt on the dole now, would be on the dole soon.

[dtmpower]

I think Guernsey dropped car tax/discs in favour of putting the tax on the fuel. Fairer tax and stops unnecessary employment of admin staff.

[DAVEVO9]

Sukh13 said:

The haulage would come to a halt and everything in shops would cost more and then the economy would start to slow.

It would help the economy if fuel prices for haulage/transport were reduced quite a bit..

VED for artics are very high, so scrapping it along with reduced fuel prices would help a lot..

Scrap the VED for cars and put up the fuel.. Cost of living should fall because of reduced transport costs.. Lorries/Public transport/Rail travel should all become a lot cheaper.

[V88Dicky]

Using some quick fag packet calculations, I work it out at approx. -9 p per litre. Yes, thats right. 9 Pence less per litre.

Thats removing the DVLA from the overall tax burden.

I work out if we remove the DSS another 12p, and the NHS, wait for it,


43p!

Happy New Year!

[Negative Creep]

Just think of all the income from fines the DVLA would miss out on every time they lose your documents

[Martin Keene]

Not a clue. But I am all up for it.

Pro's:
1) I stop having to taxing and sorn the westfield every year
2) If I want to use the westfield during my normal sorn period, I can
3) I pay less tax for the westfield because it does less miles
4) Those useless tossers all get put out to pasture
5) Massve saving py putting them all out to pasture

Con's:
1) Erm...

[BarnatosGhost]

Using the following assumptions:

Average RFL value: £200
Average Mileage per taxed car: 10,000
Average mpg: 30

The average car in the above case uses 1300 litres a year, making the £200 RFL the equivalent of 6.5p per litre.

Sounds good to me.

[k-ink]

I suspect it will actually cost less than predicted above, as tax evasion would be eliminated. I'd go further and add on a basic third party insurance cover. Say goodbye to unisured scum as well. I'm sure there will be others to add on whike your at it...

[MX7]

k-ink said:

I'd go further and add on a basic third party insurance cover.

How much would that cost per litre?

[BarnatosGhost]

MX7 said:

k-ink said:

I'd go further and add on a basic third party insurance cover.

How much would that cost per litre?

Not much. The aussies include it with their road-tax equivalent.

[redtwin]

About £3 extra per litre when lots of 17 year olds run out and buy banger Scoobys and Evos they can now legally drive and crash into 50 grand cars with.

Anyone fancy putting in a claim for their accident damaged Ferrari (don't forget the like for like hire car!) with a state run insurance agency?.

[R1 Loon]

Remember any add on to fuel will get a 20% boost courtesy of VAT too, so 5p is really 6p.

As for TP insurance, then anyone will be able to drive any car at any age. It won't bother the uninsured, but the law abiding will have the floodgates opened and all hell could break loose on the roads and with claims.

If you think insurance costs a lot now, expect a minimum 50p + VAT per litre just for that and the ability to increase that level irrespective of what actuaally happens or not. Outlaw, credit hire? More on the dole, more money needed, bigger hikes to come. The whole idea of government run TP insurance would cripple all of us. Those countries that do it have very high levels of fatalities on the roads and all are trying to move away from it.

[MX7]

BarnatosGhost said:

MX7 said:

k-ink said:

I'd go further and add on a basic third party insurance cover.

How much would that cost per litre?

Not much. The aussies include it with their road-tax equivalent.

But it only covers personal injury, so wouldn't meet our minimum standards.

[kev b]

You would still have to register your car and pretty soon there would be a "small" fee for this,then gradually, with each budget it would increase to £100 or more and we would be worse off than before. Am I being paranoid? What does everyone think?