A shed to learn FWD
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thinfourth2

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32,414 posts

220 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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My current shed a 12 year old ford focus is proving to be reasonably entertaining in the curent weather with suitable tyres.

However it might be going to shed heaven depending on how many pages it gets at the MOT

Is there another suitable shed that would be a good car to learn FWD in as I find it rather counterintuitive at times when the back end steps out.

MondeoMan1981

2,444 posts

199 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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Pug 306 springs to mind, lovely drive.

Heathwood

2,860 posts

218 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that you want a FWD car that understeers more?


rottie102

4,028 posts

200 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
to learn FWD in
I'm sorry but you've lost me a bit there... As in "to drive a FWD car"?
Well, any other FWD car?
HTH smile

Defcon5

6,397 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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Heathwood said:
Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that you want a FWD car that understeers more?

Agreed, the focus is a decent handling regular car

thinfourth2

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Thursday 23rd December 2010
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rottie102 said:
thinfourth2 said:
to learn FWD in
I'm sorry but you've lost me a bit there... As in "to drive a FWD car"?
Well, any other FWD car?
HTH smile
As in a good handling FWD shed that is forgiving

BeeRoad

684 posts

178 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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Try a Mondeo V6 that needs the rear suspension doing - I had one years ago as a company car and if you lifted off mid corner it would swap ends quicker than a 911 on greased cross-plies.

RB26DETT

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191 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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Not sure what you mean, but anyway hows about a Ford Puma ?

rottie102

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200 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
rottie102 said:
thinfourth2 said:
to learn FWD in
I'm sorry but you've lost me a bit there... As in "to drive a FWD car"?
Well, any other FWD car?
HTH smile
As in a good handling FWD shed that is forgiving
Well, if you don't mind going slightly older then Golf MK2 GTi, Vauxhall Astra GTE and Peugeot 205 GTi come to mind...

Edited by rottie102 on Thursday 23 December 21:42

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

179 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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IMO you'll be hard pressed to find a better FWD drive car than the focus. Unless you get a sporty model... I have had the old ST170 (I loved that car) and I now have a diesel 1.8... The handling is great for what it is...

DannyVTS

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184 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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This thread is slightly confusing

I would get a Saxo VTS, I bought mine for shed money and its a good handling FWD hatch?

You'd be lucky to get a 106GTi/205Gti/306GTi-6 for shed money, without it being properfked (in the voice of Micky from snatch of course)

bull996

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225 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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Do you think he means "Four Wheel Drive" or do you think he thinks his Focus is RWD???????

rottie102

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200 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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bull996 said:
Do you think he means "Four Wheel Drive" or do you think he thinks his Focus is RWD???????
I think you're trying too hard...rolleyes

lordlee

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261 months

Thursday 23rd December 2010
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I wouldn't suggest a 205 GTI is a good car to learn FWD in unless you enjoy rather dramatic lift off oversteer that in my eyes you need to be quick with to catch. The Mk2 Golf GTI is far more forgiving.

However for this little cash my money would be here as its a little more interesting being a coupe and I reckon a monkey would secure it...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2226470.htm




thinfourth2

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Friday 24th December 2010
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bull996 said:
Do you think he means "Four Wheel Drive" or do you think he thinks his Focus is RWD???????
Considering I've had the engine and gearbox sat on a bench I'm pretty certain which wheels are powered

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

198 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
bull996 said:
Do you think he means "Four Wheel Drive" or do you think he thinks his Focus is RWD???????
Considering I've had the engine and gearbox sat on a bench I'm pretty certain which wheels are powered
If you're such a guru how come you need to learn how to drive the most basic of car layouts? Have you driven nothing but Zondas or something?

You have to admit, this thread is slightly puzzling.

Steve H

6,314 posts

211 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
My current shed a 12 year old ford focus is proving to be reasonably entertaining in the curent weather with suitable tyres.

However it might be going to shed heaven depending on how many pages it gets at the MOT

Is there another suitable shed that would be a good car to learn FWD in as I find it rather counterintuitive at times when the back end steps out.
If the back end steps out regularly on a focus I'd suggest that either it's going to fail that MOT on something pretty odd or it's you and not the car that is causing it and you'd probably find the same issue on any car no matter what end it's driven from.

Have you ever had any training or instruction on how to avoid (or deal with) the car sliding?

Steve H

CraigyMc

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252 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
Is there another suitable shed that would be a good car to learn FWD in as I find it rather counterintuitive at times when the back end steps out.
  • If your current focus can't pass an MOT, get another car. I'd suggest a Focus, as they are cheap as chips and a good drive.
  • If you find the focus handling is "counterintuitive" in the new car, I'd suggest the driver is the thing that needs an upgrade. Get some training.
Merry Christmas!

C

thinfourth2

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Friday 24th December 2010
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Papa Hotel said:
thinfourth2 said:
bull996 said:
Do you think he means "Four Wheel Drive" or do you think he thinks his Focus is RWD???????
Considering I've had the engine and gearbox sat on a bench I'm pretty certain which wheels are powered
If you're such a guru how come you need to learn how to drive the most basic of car layouts? Have you driven nothing but Zondas or something?

You have to admit, this thread is slightly puzzling.
Take Micheal Schumacher

Ask him to change the clutch in a car

Do you think he would manage?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

271 months

Friday 24th December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
Is there another suitable shed that would be a good car to learn FWD in as I find it rather counterintuitive at times when the back end steps out.
Any car without broken rear suspension and/or bald tyres would allow you to get a feel for how a FWD car normally handles. Alternatively, stop yanking the handbrake on at every corner and you'll find the back end tends to stay put.