V5C: Non-transferable Registration Mark
V5C: Non-transferable Registration Mark
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Mattt

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16,664 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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My current V5C says this on it under the Special Notes section.

I was wondering why - the internet offers various answers, anyone know? Some people mentioned it was related to tying chassis numbers to plates - which I thought might be the case with a TVR.

I want to put a Reg on it that's currently on retention, so I assume that will be fine, and then the current plate will stay with the car as a 'ghost' plate to be put back on when mine is removed?

MrReg

1,939 posts

238 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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Yup - you can put a plate on it, but you sell that one on or give it away - it has to stay with the car.
There are all sorts of reasons why it is non transferrable - mainly that there has been some kind of issue with ownership in the past, that it was issued when a reg was taken off previously or a few more.

collateral

7,238 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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Family member had a v5 with this on and was told it's to help stop cloning

Larry Dickman

3,762 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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Good question. I have a 1960 Land Rover & have the same thing written in the special notes section, as far as I can tell it's the original number.

john2443

6,447 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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If the vehicle lost the reg (didn't apply for V5 when the old card log books were scrapped - 1984?) and the reg was recovered through the DVLA/FOBHVC scheme it should be non transferable to stop people recovering a good abc 123 type reg and then selling it to go on modern car.

I guess that in the same situation when the original couldn't be allocated and an age related plate was issued - lots of SU SV FF were used - they may be non trans.

Not sure why else.

J

dave4959

173 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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We had a car from new (A focus), after 2 months my mum transfered her private plate onto it. 3 years later the car was passed onto my brother and my mum got a new car, she transfered her private plate onto her new car from the focus.

The focus got back the original dated reg that was on when we bought it. This also came with a special note thaty the reg was not transferable onto another car. However since then the car has a defferent private plate on.

However when we come to sell this car, I assume the original plate will go back on again, when the 2nd private plate is taken off.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

262 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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It most usually happens when someone has sold the original "dateless" registration off the car. For instance an old Land rover whose original plate was KEV 123.

Someone sells that plate and DVLA issue the vehicle with a random replacement such as DAN 579. Keeps the car looking right for its age but they slap on a prohibition to stop the new number being sold or transferred. Otherwise it would be too easy for people to keep selling the plate, asking for another, selling that too, asking for another, selling that, and so on for ever!

SubaruSteve

546 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
It most usually happens when someone has sold the original "dateless" registration off the car. For instance an old Land rover whose original plate was KEV 123.

Someone sells that plate and DVLA issue the vehicle with a random replacement such as DAN 579. Keeps the car looking right for its age but they slap on a prohibition to stop the new number being sold or transferred. Otherwise it would be too easy for people to keep selling the plate, asking for another, selling that too, asking for another, selling that, and so on for ever!
This.

I had heard in the past plate dealers were doing this repeatedly so DVLA put a stop to it.

Dog Star

17,002 posts

184 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
It most usually happens when someone has sold the original "dateless" registration off the car. For instance an old Land rover whose original plate was KEV 123.

Someone sells that plate and DVLA issue the vehicle with a random replacement such as DAN 579. Keeps the car looking right for its age but they slap on a prohibition to stop the new number being sold or transferred. Otherwise it would be too easy for people to keep selling the plate, asking for another, selling that too, asking for another, selling that, and so on for ever!
Exactly what I've been told.

Pat H

8,058 posts

272 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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SubaruSteve said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
It most usually happens when someone has sold the original "dateless" registration off the car. For instance an old Land rover whose original plate was KEV 123.

Someone sells that plate and DVLA issue the vehicle with a random replacement such as DAN 579. Keeps the car looking right for its age but they slap on a prohibition to stop the new number being sold or transferred. Otherwise it would be too easy for people to keep selling the plate, asking for another, selling that too, asking for another, selling that, and so on for ever!
This.

I had heard in the past plate dealers were doing this repeatedly so DVLA put a stop to it.
Yep.

It used to be commonplace for plate dealers to buy an ancient cheap moped and use it as an endless source of free attractive registrations.

When the DVLA wised up to this, they started making newly issued replacement numbers non transferrable.

You will also get a non transferrable age related plate if you apply for a V5 for an old vehicle that has not previously been registered or where its identity has been lost.

I received a non transferrable age related plate when I restored and registered an old 750 Triumph which had only ever previously been used as a racing bike.

Back in the 1980s there was a spell where old mopeds were cloned to obtain new V5s with valuable ageless plates. Some ended up with several fictitious frame numbers being stamped into them as they were registered time and time again.



Edited by Pat H on Wednesday 22 December 18:04

MJK 24

5,669 posts

252 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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When I bought my car, it's registration number was Cxxx KLG. I put a Cherished Plate on for approx 6 months.

When I removed that Cherished Plate, it was reissued with Cxxx KLG but that registration was now marked as non transferable.

Don't ask me why for I do not know!

MGJohn

10,203 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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I have a theory ... If any registration has 'some' value, DVLA put that clause on the V5.

Tell you why. I had a nice 1999 Rover 620ti with the registration V8 **** ... Anything with V8 in it would have some added value rather than any old assortment of letters and numbers... I've noticed that most numbers on offer with DVLA with certain combinations in them, such as MG ... are on offer at inflated prices compared to many others.

That's my theory ....
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