Very cheap cars/finance in America.
Very cheap cars/finance in America.
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smifffymoto

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5,092 posts

221 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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I'm on holiday in America and the tv is full of car ads,Winter event as they call it.
A few examples.
New base model Camaro $25000
New Dodge Caravan 0% for 6 years,that's cheap.
Most manufacturers are offering 0%,be they American,Japanese or Korean.The Germans have opted for a service plan deal or ridiculousley long warrentey.
Why is it in the UK and Europe we get crap deals in comparison?

paoloh

8,617 posts

220 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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I believe the States is the biggest market in the world.

whoami

13,162 posts

256 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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It's actually China but I'm not sure how that effects the prices/deal?

HellDiver

5,708 posts

198 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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GM were selling the Ellesmere Port built Astra as a Saturn Astra for £8k - brand new, high spec Astra for base spec Corsa money.

paoloh

8,617 posts

220 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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whoami said:
It's actually China but I'm not sure how that effects the prices/deal?
If you are successful in a big market.....

Blown2CV

29,786 posts

219 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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the biggest market containing cars you might actually want to buy (vaguely) is the US.

MX7

7,902 posts

190 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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What taxes do they add yo the advertised price?

Blown2CV

29,786 posts

219 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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MX7 said:
What taxes do they add yo the advertised price?

jeff m

4,066 posts

274 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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MX7 said:
What taxes do they add to the advertised price?
Sales tax, registration
approx 7% + $200 Depending on the State.

mercfunder

8,535 posts

189 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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it's still pretty hard to get financing in the US, and they ain't shifting that many cars, look at the ads, they want you to do all the credit checks etc before you get to the dealership (pre-qualified buyers), they ain't going to search around to find credit for you.

Talking to a German colleague the other day, he was saying that there are some huge discounts to be had over there at the moment 25%+ on some vehicles, but you still have to pay purchase tax at the full list price.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

277 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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mercfunder said:
it's still pretty hard to get financing in the US, and they ain't shifting that many cars, look at the ads, they want you to do all the credit checks etc before you get to the dealership
Not many cash buyers then?

Matt Harper

6,841 posts

217 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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mercfunder said:
it's still pretty hard to get financing in the US, and they ain't shifting that many cars, look at the ads, they want you to do all the credit checks etc before you get to the dealership (pre-qualified buyers), they ain't going to search around to find credit for you.
This is nonesense, by the way.

mercfunder

8,535 posts

189 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Matt Harper said:
mercfunder said:
it's still pretty hard to get financing in the US, and they ain't shifting that many cars, look at the ads, they want you to do all the credit checks etc before you get to the dealership (pre-qualified buyers), they ain't going to search around to find credit for you.
This is nonesense, by the way.
This is what I am told by friends in Chicago, maybe different in sunny Florida.

jeff m

4,066 posts

274 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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mercfunder said:
it's still pretty hard to get financing in the US, and they ain't shifting that many cars, look at the ads, they want you to do all the credit checks etc before you get to the dealership (pre-qualified buyers), they ain't going to search around to find credit for you.

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If you are refering to the small type that says "for qualified buyers only"
It means that their offer of certain rates only apply to people with a decent credit rating. I'm not not sure what that is but I would guess 700+.

As far as pre qualification is concerned, I can't imagine any dealership not checking your qualification themselves. However if you are going to buy a car on credit in the States you would be crazy not to speak to your bank first as they can probably give you a better deal.

I bought a car last year, I din't finance it but they still ran a credit check on me as I saw the "blip" on my credit report.
Probably thought I was a bum off the street coming in to get warm. Yep, I don't always dress well.
They did offer credit. Which I declined. The impression I got was that they would move heaven and earth to make a sale.
Short of co signing the loanbiggrin

MadmanO/T People

908 posts

221 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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mercfunder said:
it's still pretty hard to get financing in the US, and they ain't shifting that many cars, look at the ads, they want you to do all the credit checks etc before you get to the dealership (pre-qualified buyers), they ain't going to search around to find credit for you.
Having once worked for a Honda and Volvo dealer here in the States, I can assure you a dealer will do EVERYTHING humanly possible to put punters into cars. That's how they make their money. If they don't move the metal, they don't get paid.


Viper

10,005 posts

289 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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jeff m said:
MX7 said:
What taxes do they add to the advertised price?
Sales tax, registration
approx 7% + $200 Depending on the State.
no US sales tax if you export from a dealership to the UK (in Florida at least)

jeff m

4,066 posts

274 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Viper said:
jeff m said:
MX7 said:
What taxes do they add to the advertised price?
Sales tax, registration
approx 7% + $200 Depending on the State.
no US sales tax if you export from a dealership to the UK (in Florida at least)
No sales tax for me in NJ if I buy in Florida smile
However when I reg in NJ they catch me for it, as I suspect the UK will.

Viper

10,005 posts

289 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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they certainly will over here, UK tax on US imports jumps to 30% of the US $ value (when VAT increases in Jan....)

one of our buddies in the Viper forum got his brand new ACR a couple of weeks ago just in time, else i think he would of have to coughed up an extra £2500 in import taxes if it landed after Jan 1st

I chatted to a Dodge delearship in FL a few years ago about exporting to the UK, if send a container to the delearship and the car gets loaded on site there is no sales tax, however if you collect the car from the delearship and drive it to the docks you are liable for US sales tax






Edited by Viper on Monday 20th December 17:31

Deva Link

26,934 posts

261 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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A couple of years ago I saw astonishing prices on BMWs while in Florida - X3's for $21K to buy and 3 Series for $299/mth on personal lease. And bear in mind that their entry level 3 Series is badged 328i with the 3.0L engine.

It's my impression that a big difference in the US is that the dealers hold tons of inventory - ie, look at the 3 Series, there's no diesels sold there and BMW won't sell 4cyl petrol's in the US so there's a much more limited range, therefore easier to stock. So the dealers have the cars piled high and they've got to sell them

Compare that to the UK and most dealers act if they're doing you a favour by getting hold of a car for you.

EK993

1,951 posts

267 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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mercfunder said:
Matt Harper said:
mercfunder said:
it's still pretty hard to get financing in the US, and they ain't shifting that many cars, look at the ads, they want you to do all the credit checks etc before you get to the dealership (pre-qualified buyers), they ain't going to search around to find credit for you.
This is nonesense, by the way.
This is what I am told by friends in Chicago, maybe different in sunny Florida.
I live in Connecticut, and its nonsense for here as well....