Why doesn't the UK Snow Plough??
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Just been out in the village clearing the snow from the pavements and there's about 3inches on the road, all quite soft stuff.
Anyway half way through my efforts I hear a snow plough coming along and thought that it would be good as that would be the road scraped clear too!!
But no, the snow plough drives straight through just chucking out salt/grit out of the back.
In France they would be scraping the snow too as this is the most effective way to clear the snow and then grit/salt at the same time.
The pavements are now nice and safe for everyone to walk on but the roads are a danger so I got to wondering why we in the UK don't copy the snow clearing technique of our European counterparts?
It's obviously not that we've not got the facilities to do it?
Anyway half way through my efforts I hear a snow plough coming along and thought that it would be good as that would be the road scraped clear too!!
But no, the snow plough drives straight through just chucking out salt/grit out of the back.
In France they would be scraping the snow too as this is the most effective way to clear the snow and then grit/salt at the same time.
The pavements are now nice and safe for everyone to walk on but the roads are a danger so I got to wondering why we in the UK don't copy the snow clearing technique of our European counterparts?
It's obviously not that we've not got the facilities to do it?
Snow pluffs are great for smoothing a flat, compact surface on deep snow, to then allow studded/snow tyres to work well.
Skimming over wet slush to leave a few mil of frozen snow (and destroying the edge of the ploughing blade and the road surface beneath in the process) just makes life difficult.
Skimming over wet slush to leave a few mil of frozen snow (and destroying the edge of the ploughing blade and the road surface beneath in the process) just makes life difficult.
Crossflow Kid said:
Snow pluffs are great for smoothing a flat, compact surface on deep snow, to then allow studded/snow tyres to work well.
Skimming over wet slush to leave a few mil of frozen snow (and destroying the edge of the ploughing blade and the road surface beneath in the process) just makes life difficult.
This.Skimming over wet slush to leave a few mil of frozen snow (and destroying the edge of the ploughing blade and the road surface beneath in the process) just makes life difficult.
You plough a road once snowfall is measured in feet, to get down to a compacted snow surface that is fit to drive on with the correct tyres.
If you ploughed a UK road now (with the exception of some bits of Scotland) you'd just take up the road surface too.
With repeated gritting and a few people drivin over it to mix it, roads will clear soon enough.
but the quantities of snow we have in some places now together with the prolonged below freezing temps mean that a change of straetgy to ploughing is probably the best option. Certainly on pavements the best thing to do in this kind of weather is to clear it completely or to leave it as it is and put gravel (not salt) down to provide grip. people are still gritting pavements and in this weather it just turns them into a right slughly, slippery messy mess.
and my boiler is broken.
and my boiler is broken.
thank you, sincerely.the roads where not that bad yesterday, just the idiots driving on them..The amount of tail gaiting I saw yesterday, mixed with a van driving up my arse...I was close to doing something out of "Falling Down" but it was a bit cold outside.
Edited by jdbecks on Sunday 19th December 12:28
On road that have cat's eyes, the snowploughs rip out the cats eyes and bugger up the plough blade at the same time. Here in CH, we don't have cat's eyes for this reason - the ploughs can go right down to the road surface.
This said and in all honesty I'd much rather have cat's eyes than a fully cleared road in the Winter. The road marking here are atrocious and you really do miss the cat's eyes.
This said and in all honesty I'd much rather have cat's eyes than a fully cleared road in the Winter. The road marking here are atrocious and you really do miss the cat's eyes.
cheadle hulme said:
Pugtor said:
I was out 10pm-1am then 4am till 9.
It was pretty deep in places and i managed to make it even without winter tyres
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Even with the long hours, I still want your job.It was pretty deep in places and i managed to make it even without winter tyres
:Pugtor said:
cheadle hulme said:
Pugtor said:
I was out 10pm-1am then 4am till 9.
It was pretty deep in places and i managed to make it even without winter tyres:
Even with the long hours, I still want your job.It was pretty deep in places and i managed to make it even without winter tyres
:Pugtor said:
It is good fun until you are on the steeper hills in 4wd with the diffs locked and it starts to spin as it not the easiest thing to regain control of if you did start sliding backwards.
As this Swiss plough driver found out;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKxy5Vst7Mo
WeirdNeville said:
This.
You plough a road once snowfall is measured in feet, to get down to a compacted snow surface that is fit to drive on with the correct tyres.
If you ploughed a UK road now (with the exception of some bits of Scotland) you'd just take up the road surface too.
With repeated gritting and a few people drivin over it to mix it, roads will clear soon enough.
In my experience, as commented by someone from Switzerland, they scrape down to the road surface and then spread salt/grit... the few mm left by the snow plough delt with by passing traffic.. not that there is much through my village but enough to be effective.You plough a road once snowfall is measured in feet, to get down to a compacted snow surface that is fit to drive on with the correct tyres.
If you ploughed a UK road now (with the exception of some bits of Scotland) you'd just take up the road surface too.
With repeated gritting and a few people drivin over it to mix it, roads will clear soon enough.
They do. Your local council just need to get their arse in gear and get it organised.
We've got tractors clearing roads here. As I understand it the council provides ploughs gratis and tells them roads to prioritise to keep clear. They get paid for their time.
It's irregular but it's good when done. They also do clear the roads with speedbumps.
Then again we get regular heavy snowfall. You probably don't, so that could be the catch!
We've got tractors clearing roads here. As I understand it the council provides ploughs gratis and tells them roads to prioritise to keep clear. They get paid for their time.
It's irregular but it's good when done. They also do clear the roads with speedbumps.
Then again we get regular heavy snowfall. You probably don't, so that could be the catch!
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