20-everywhere snow drivers
Discussion
After a light dusting of snow this morning, I was twenty minutes late to work.
The reason was not the snow but a handful of people driving along virtually snow-free A-roads at a steady 20 mph, thus forcing the same speed on everyone else. The one adverse effect of the snow was a bit of a centre line ridge, rendering overtaking more or less impossible.
I say 'virtually snow-free' because there were points where going very slowly was prudent, but there were also whole stretches that were unaffected. The 20-everywhere brigade seemed to take these changes of condition with no adjustment of speed.
Are the 20-everywhere brigade exactly the same drivers as the 40-everywhere brigade, just in adverse conditions?
The reason was not the snow but a handful of people driving along virtually snow-free A-roads at a steady 20 mph, thus forcing the same speed on everyone else. The one adverse effect of the snow was a bit of a centre line ridge, rendering overtaking more or less impossible.
I say 'virtually snow-free' because there were points where going very slowly was prudent, but there were also whole stretches that were unaffected. The 20-everywhere brigade seemed to take these changes of condition with no adjustment of speed.
Are the 20-everywhere brigade exactly the same drivers as the 40-everywhere brigade, just in adverse conditions?
Had one of these this morning, along a main road into the town centre. I just overtook the numpty (+5 people without the gumption to overtake) not sure if this is allowed really but was easily done (very wide road, non residential area). Is a pain though when there is a big ridge of snow/slush in the middle.
Johnnytheboy said:
Are the 20-everywhere brigade exactly the same drivers as the 40-everywhere brigade, just in adverse conditions?
I don't think so... I could perhaps fall into the 20-even on clear looking roads brigade when it snows but would never be in the 40 brigade in fine driving conditions.It's just a matter of some drivers taking longer to get a feel for the road and grip conditions. Just because snow has cleared from the main road track, doesn't mean grip levels are back to normal (black ice etc.)
Finally I think some drivers just don't care so much about driving. They just want to get from A to B safely and I think that's perfectly acceptable.
.blue said:
It's just a matter of some drivers taking longer to get a feel for the road and grip conditions. Just because snow has cleared from the main road track, doesn't mean grip levels are back to normal (black ice etc.)
These drivers have no feel in any conditions. They choose a speed they think will be safe when they set out and stick to it no matter what.Most of them will look at the sky to determine what the road conditions might be.
Yuxi said:
Better to be in queue doing 20 than stopped because some knob who thinks he is a better driver than everybody else has tried to overtake, had an accident and is blocking the road. Leave early and be patient.
This is the sort of defeatist, snivelling attitude which seems more prevalent nowadays - maybe we should drive at 20mph ALL the time to reduce the chance of accidents? Or on the other hand people could use their brains a little more, learn how to better drive to the conditions and to interpret the conditions properly.There was a few of these today when my dad was driving, no snow on the road, still going 20 MPH everywhere like their life depended on it. I guess it is lack of experience driving in those conditions. I was driving once where the whole road was covered in snow and speeds where 20-25 which was acceptable. You could feel the road so well and knew what the conditions were like. Perhaps they are afraid of hitting black ice or something? It would be a legitimate concern, when the whole road is covered in snow at least you know where you are in terms of grip. Smoothness is the key in low grip conditions afterall.
As I (and the car parked opposite a t-junction today) found out, the 20-everywhere brigade are also the same ones who apply the same amount of brake and accelerator pedal irregardless of weather conditions. Then they wonder why their ABS didn't stop them from collecting several cars as they slid helplessly down the road with their foot jammed on the brake pedal.
You have overlooked the obvious, is it because they can't see through the frozen windscreen because they have all the heat directed at thier feet? I saw at least half a dozen cars this morning where you could not see through either the windscreen or the side windows as they were covered in frost, one with a slit about 3 inches high & 2feet wide to peer out of. I did wonder if the driver was wearing a hijab!
LMC said:
I got caught by a 20 MPH'er going up an off ramp in the last snow, caused me to come grinding to a halt because they stole all my momentum 
Chumps the lot of them...
Or he got up the ramp at 20 mph and you got too close for the conditions and had to stop on a slippy ramp Chumps the lot of them...
However the ones who stick to 20 when the road clears do tend to make me laugh, but Im another one who leaves a bit earlier expecting them too.
How I laughed when some idiot decided to overtake me on the way home. I was probably hitting all of 35mph and knew it was slippery. Said fool fishtailed as he pulled back in and slowed to approx 33mph infront of me.
Then another, this time Mr Invincible chavtastic Shogun driver decided he could undertake me at a roundabout, luckily being a company car I care less about the paintwork than I do about cleaning it, lets just say his progress following this was considerably reduced.
I cant wait for all the heroes in this thread to get caught out
Then another, this time Mr Invincible chavtastic Shogun driver decided he could undertake me at a roundabout, luckily being a company car I care less about the paintwork than I do about cleaning it, lets just say his progress following this was considerably reduced.
I cant wait for all the heroes in this thread to get caught out
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