Getting fooled by no tax on 'environmentally friendly' cars
Getting fooled by no tax on 'environmentally friendly' cars
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illmonkey

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19,202 posts

214 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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I was thinking about this after hearing something on the news.

You pay no tax on environmentally friendly cars. Brilliant, what a selling point, I'll rush out and buy one now to save £200/year.

But, the more on the roads, the less tax they'll see, same goes for petrol, better MPG, less petrol used or even electricity instead.

So, how will they replace all this money they are willing us to stop giving them?

With all of this money we currently pay for our roads, what will happen to them with NO money from the motorist? They'll just become unusable.

I'd suggest charging people higher tax on environmentally friendly cars to subsidise the loss of money due to the lack of petrol they are buying, oh wait a minute...

ShadownINja

78,699 posts

298 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Obviously.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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You think that the money from motorists goes towards roads

Nope it gets given to chavs

SonicHedgeHog

2,588 posts

198 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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...our roads are maintained?confused

illmonkey

Original Poster:

19,202 posts

214 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
You think that the money from motorists goes towards roads

Nope it gets given to chavs
I know it doesn't go towards our roads, but its meant to.

I'm not defending it, but where will the money come from for the chavs? Higher income tax?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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illmonkey said:
thinfourth2 said:
You think that the money from motorists goes towards roads

Nope it gets given to chavs
I know it doesn't go towards our roads, but its meant to.

I'm not defending it, but where will the money come from for the chavs? Higher income tax?
Road pricing

or the magic money tree

madala

5,063 posts

214 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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SonicHedgeHog said:
...our roads are maintained?confused
....that was news to me as well......frown

BOR

5,031 posts

271 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Road Charging. Under the guise of reducing congestion or emissions, the infrastructure to allow this will be rolled out.

Polliticians might be s, but they're (generally) not dumb. The lost revenue WILL need to be retrieved from road users as the long term shift to electric/ low tailpipe emission cars takes place.

swamp

1,007 posts

205 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
You think that the money from motoriststaxpayers goes towards roadsproviding valuable public services

Nope it gets given to chavs
EFA




sorry OT, couldn't help it


Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

186 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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They've put UP 'road tax' on the vast majority of other cars, to more than compensate - or didn't you notice? And if too many people swap to 0 rate cars at some vastly distant point in the future? Well remember when diesel was the 'green' future and was 'subsidised'?

Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Thursday 16th December 09:59

Cemesis

771 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Just looked it up, basically the government make £46 billion from motorists (that must include tax on fuel which is the second largest tax in the UK (after income tax). They spend £4 billion on the roads.

The roads continue to get worse year on year due to massive under-investment. A friend of mine lives in Amersham and got 6 puntures due to potholes over 3 years, 2 in one night.

tyranical

927 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Cemesis said:
Just looked it up, basically the government make £46 billion from motorists (that must include tax on fuel which is the second largest tax in the UK (after income tax). They spend £4 billion on the roads.

The roads continue to get worse year on year due to massive under-investment. A friend of mine lives in Amersham and got 6 puntures due to potholes over 3 years, 2 in one night.
Did you tell your friend he could always drive round them? Crazy I know.

Jasandjules

71,175 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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illmonkey said:
So, how will they replace all this money they are willing us to stop giving them?
Uh, they will take a huge amount of tax from the electricity spent charging up the car.

XitUp

7,690 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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If only they'd make their billionaire mates pay tax.

lost in espace

6,399 posts

223 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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XitUp said:
If only they'd make their billionaire mates pay tax.
You leave Sir Green and Vodafone out of this. rage

tigger1

8,435 posts

237 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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All this electricity is going to be in great demand soon...

In the end, (almost) everything we buy is taxed one way or another.

Two words:

1) Death
2) Taxes

Lordglenmorangie

3,071 posts

221 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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There is not enough capacity to supply homes with electricity we are boarder line on power cuts as it is. I want to know how we are going to generate this electricity for all these cars. Mind you we can always buy some from the French , because they have thought about this issue driving

EDLT

15,421 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Mr GrimNasty said:
They've put UP 'road tax' on the vast majority of other cars, to more than compensate - or didn't you notice? And if too many people swap to 0 rate cars at some vastly distant point in the future? Well remember when diesel was the 'green' future and was 'subsidised'?
There are also plans in the future to lower the emissions bands again, so any new low emissions cars would start paying tax again unless they can get the carbons down almost to the point where the air coming out is cleaner than the air going in.

hyperblue

2,834 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Lordglenmorangie said:
There is not enough capacity to supply homes with electricity we are boarder line on power cuts as it is. I want to know how we are going to generate this electricity for all these cars. Mind you we can always buy some from the French , because they have thought about this issue driving
Windfarms.




rofl

paul.deitch

2,214 posts

273 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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It's so that they can save up for the mega expensive battery replacement one day.