car transporter or recovery vehicle - help please ??
car transporter or recovery vehicle - help please ??
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judehuber

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22 posts

176 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Hi everyone, I need somwe help / advice
Having been told so many conflicting reports regarding tacho’s , operators licences, 6 weekly vehicle checks etc., I really do need some professional advice on what would be the most suitable vehicle for my personal transport needs.

I am currently looking at a single flat bed Car Transporter also a Recovery Vehicle both are similar HGV Revenue weight at 5250 KG gross and are both are fitted with recovery winches.

The use of the vehicle would be to transport my own car to car events; there is no financial reward involved.

I currently hold a license with a category C1 and don’t really want to have all the hassle of a goods operators licence and using a tacho so what would be the best kind of vehicle to buy ?
The Car Transporter or the Recovery Vehicle ?

I would really appreciate and value your reply,
Many thanks
jude

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5,669 posts

252 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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Firstly, VOSA make Hitler look like a good Samaritan!

What events are you transporting your car to? In the eyes of VOSA, competing in a hillclimb or club race meeting where there's prize money on offer classifies your journey as being for hire or reward! The same is also applicable to people doing Point to Point with horse etc despite the fact that you may not win a penny!

Any vehicle with a gross weight of 5,250kgs will have a tachograph fitted. To avoid arguments at the side of the road, use it! A box of 100 charts costs £4. Drive 4.5hrs, 45min break. Drive 4.5hrs, 45min break. Drive 1hr, 9hr break.

You may need a 'Restricted Operators Licence' however you definately don't need a full one.

6 weekly inspections, not sure. You can buy the actual Inspection Booklets online. If you're doing a small annual mileage, perhaps get it done twice a year and fill in the rest yourself. You should definately get a proper inspection done pre MOT. You'll be taking it to VOSA themselves and their aim is to fail you for everything they can. A commercial vehicle workshop will know all the ins and outs of what they're going to be looking for - it's a minefield.

Recovery truck or car transporter - in the eyes of VOSA there's no difference between the two or a horsebox, flat bed truck, curtainsider or bin lorry. They're just commercial vehicles. Up until a few years ago, a recovery truck didn't need an MOT nor a working tacho. That's all stopped now. You'd see people with 24hr Recovery in illuminous lettering on the front of their cab looking to avoid as many laws as possible. If such a person was found to be using their vehicle for pre booked movements of roadworthy cars, they'd be up in front of a Magistrate. It's a level playing field now these rules were abolished.

Your C1 licence covers you to drive a vehicle upto 7,500kgs. You can also tow though your truck and GROSS WEIGHT of any trailer any trailer must be under 8,250kgs. If you want to tow a 3,500kg trailer, you'll need a C1+E covering you upto 11,000kgs.

If your vehicle is registered onwards of 2001,
it'll need a speed limited set at 56mph. The only exemptions are for the emergency services and prison vans.

If you want to go to London you need to be Low Emission Zone
compliant or alternatively just pay the £200 per day charge.

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

234 months

Monday 13th December 2010
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You can only drive for 10 hours in a day twice a week. And watch the correct weekly break too - some days you'll need 11 hours off, not just 9.

If you have an operators licence you'll need to have a maintenance schedule in place and 6-weekly intervals will keep you squeaky clean with Vosa - just ensure there's no gaps in records of this. You also need to prove financial stature according to the size of the fleet you own although for the sort of vehicle you're looking at probably not too much of a bother.