Lion Battery from Eurocarparts

[weedram]

My 3.2 Carrera needs a new battery and these are the cheapest I can find.

Halfords wanted £94 for a standard 096 Battery - ouch!

Anyone have any experience of Lion Batteries?

Are they any good? and how do they compare to the likes of Bosch/Varta?

Thanks

[Targarama]

Dunno, but I'm thinking of ordering a new battery for my TVR from here:

http://www.performancebatteries.co.uk/cgi-bin/perf...

£62.50 inc VAT & postage for a type 069.

[powerandtorque]

weedram said:

Are they any good? and how do they compare to the likes of Bosch/Varta?

I'd personally avoid Bosch "Silver" batteries if I were you - had three fail on me in the space of a year, and I've a few friends who've had similar issues. If you use the car regularly they're often OK, but if it's left parked up for periods and the battery charge gets low, then they seem to die and never hold charge properly afterwards.

Most generic branded batteries I've had no problems with, and the one person I know of with a Lion battery has had no problems with it (but it's only around 9 months old)

[rhinochopig]

Is lion a brand or are you talking about Lithium Ion batteries?

[weedram]

rhinochopig said:

Is lion a brand or are you talking about Lithium Ion batteries?

It's the brand stocked by Eurocarparts

[Schermerhorn]

weedram said:

My 3.2 Carrera needs a new battery and these are the cheapest I can find.

Halfords wanted £94 for a standard 096 Battery - ouch!

Anyone have any experience of Lion Batteries?

Are they any good? and how do they compare to the likes of Bosch/Varta?

Thanks

Steep price. Have you tried an autoparts shop, they'll give a guarantee and it'll be quite alot cheaper too. A 096 battery generally goes for around £70 in autoparts shops with a 2 year warranty.

[Wigeon Incognito]

rhinochopig said:

Is lion a brand or are you talking about Lithium Ion batteries?

I assumed to OP was confused too, but they exist:

http://www.lionbatteries.co.uk/

Varta batteries are the same as Bosch, they bought the Bosch battery brand a few years ago.

I have a Varta Blue Top (same as a Bosch Silver) in my Porsche and it's superb with no problems even after prolonged periods of no use.

I bought mine from http://www.tayna.co.uk/ - great service.

[SWilsh]

There are effectively only three, yes 3 main car battery makers of note:

Exide: make several brands, the one of note is Bosch

Johnson Controls (the battery division just renamed its operations Clarios) and make: Varta, AC Delco, Continental, DieHard, OPTIMA, Heliar, LTH, Ford Motorcraft, and Lion Batteries

EastPenn Manufacturing company: Duracell (under contract from P&G), Deka, SigmaTEK, replaceUPS, Crown and a lot more. A lot of OEM for Toyota etc

Most times they simply use different labels between brands, but manufacturers put out a power spec and a size they require if space is limited. By return the battery companies simply then compete for price etc.

If you're reprogramming a BMS for a new battery and the original manufacturer tag states: JCB, then this is a Johnson Controls (Clarios) Battery, not an excavation tool company.
Note that a BMS only needs to know a new battery is fitted and the type. So you only need to change a single digit of the serial number if changing like for like.
If changing the Technology ie from EFB to AGM, if it's not listed, search for your software terminology on Google or in the forums.

[dontlookdown]

SWilsh said:

There are effectively only three, yes 3 main car battery makers of note:

Exide: make several brands, the one of note is Bosch

Johnson Controls (the battery division just renamed its operations Clarios) and make: Varta, AC Delco, Continental, DieHard, OPTIMA, Heliar, LTH, Ford Motorcraft, and Lion Batteries

EastPenn Manufacturing company: Duracell (under contract from P&G), Deka, SigmaTEK, replaceUPS, Crown and a lot more. A lot of OEM for Toyota etc

Most times they simply use different labels between brands, but manufacturers put out a power spec and a size they require if space is limited. By return the battery companies simply then compete for price etc.

If you're reprogramming a BMS for a new battery and the original manufacturer tag states: JCB, then this is a Johnson Controls (Clarios) Battery, not an excavation tool company.
Note that a BMS only needs to know a new battery is fitted and the type. So you only need to change a single digit of the serial number if changing like for like.
If changing the Technology ie from EFB to AGM, if it's not listed, search for your software terminology on Google or in the forums.

Excellent informative post, thank you for sharing that.

Which one of the three do you/did you work for?;)

[Waterford1]

Programming a BMS?I just slotted my new one in (64) reg,no programming needed and no problems whatsoever.

[Tyl_04]

Many cars will self learn the new battery as you drive. Only tends to be start stop vehicles and some newer models.