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RizzoTheRat

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Tuesday 8th November 2016
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I'm currently reading Michael Collins book "Carrying the fire" and really enjoying it. I understand Jean Cernan's "Last man on the moon" is supposed to be good, so plan to read that next. I believe the film of it may be on Netflix too.

However I've realise that I know absolutely nothing about the NASA space programme between Apollo and the Shuttle apart from the fact that Skylab came down over Australia in the last 70's. Any book recommendations?

Eric Mc

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272 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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There aren't too many books on Skylab or the Apollo-Soyuz joint mission. There were the only two programmes that NASA conducted between the end of the lunar landing missions and the first Shuttle flight. I only have one Skylab book which I bought decades ago.

It's called "A House in Space" and was written by Henry S F Cooper -




It was originally published in 1976 so is getting on a bit now.

Apollo-Soyuz is hard to find stuff on.
Deke Slayton's autobiography called "Deke" (funilly enough) covers this to some extent. But this is the only book that has it as its main theme -



The Haynes books on Apollo and Soyuz cover some of the tecchie aspects of Skylab and Apollo-Soyuz.

So does this book but its well out of print now -




I still have my copy that I bought in 1979.



funkyrobot

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235 months

Thursday 10th November 2016
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On a side note, it's amazing how small Skylab looks compared to the ISS.

I know the ISS is a lot more modern. However, it's not just cars that get bigger. smile

Eric Mc

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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One advantage Skylab had is internal volume.

They had a lot more room in the Skylab workshop than in any one of the ISS modules. The diameter of the Skylab module was effectively the diameter of the Saturn IVB upper stage.

The diameter of the ISS modules was dictated by the maximum size that could be fitted in a Space Shuttle cargo bay.

Skylab Workshop -



ISS Module -



funkyrobot

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Blimey. eek

Quite a difference in size there.

Skylab was a bit of a Tardis then. smile

funkyrobot

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Just noticed that Skylab fell back to earth a week before I was born. smile

funkyrobot

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Eric Mc said:
There aren't too many books on Skylab or the Apollo-Soyuz joint mission. There were the only two programmes that NASA conducted between the end of the lunar landing missions and the first Shuttle flight. I only have one Skylab book which I bought decades ago.

It's called "A House in Space" and was written by Henry S F Cooper -


Found a copy on ebay for £13.49 inc postage. May get that. smile

RizzoTheRat

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Bloody hell, Skylab looks huge inside!

funkyrobot

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
Bloody hell, Skylab looks huge inside!
That's what I thought. smile

Anyway, I've bought that book. Sorry Rizzo.

RizzoTheRat

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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funkyrobot said:
That's what I thought. smile

Anyway, I've bought that book. Sorry Rizzo.
hehe I need to read Jean Cernan's one first anyway so plenty of time to trawl e-bay, Cernans appears to be available on kindle so might just accept not having the photos for convenience of buying.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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His name is Gene (rather than Jean).

There was also a Skylab 2 built. Unfortunately, it was never launched (due to budget cuts) and is now the Skylab Exhibit at the National Air and Space Museum Washington DC.

You can see what the Saturn V was capable of as a "workhorse" rocket. It took almost 100 launchings of various sorts to build the ISS (some Shuttle, some Soyuz, some Proton). They could have built an even bigger ISS with just a handful of Saturn V launches.

It was a great piece of kit and it was almost criminal that the capability was just chucked away. The new SLS is an attempt to restore that capability - half a century later.

RizzoTheRat

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Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Eric Mc said:
His name is Gene (rather than Jean).
Oops.

Finished Carrying the Fire the other night, very enjoyable read. When checking on the Kindle store for Cernan's book I noticed you can also buy the official NASA Apollo 17 debrief, not sure if that would be really interesting or too technical to understand.

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 15th November 2016
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The official NASA histories can be very informative but will often be a bit dull and matter of fact.

FunkyNige

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Tuesday 15th November 2016
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If you don't mind not having the physical book, NASA have a selection of eBooks to download for free
https://www.nasa.gov/connect/ebooks/index.html

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 15th November 2016
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One of my favourite NASA publications is this one -



I have an original copy of this, much read. It is also available to read on line -


http://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/toc.html



Sylvaforever

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105 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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All it needs is affordable lifting capacity. .


funkyrobot

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Friday 18th November 2016
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Eric Mc said:
There aren't too many books on Skylab or the Apollo-Soyuz joint mission. There were the only two programmes that NASA conducted between the end of the lunar landing missions and the first Shuttle flight. I only have one Skylab book which I bought decades ago.

It's called "A House in Space" and was written by Henry S F Cooper -




It was originally published in 1976 so is getting on a bit now.
My copy of this arrived on the doorstep yesterday. Looks well thumbed around the edges, but is perfectly fine inside.

Had a quick read of some bits last night; very interesting. Also noted that my copy was printed in 1977. Two years before I was born and two years before Skylab fell back to earth. smile

FidoGoRetroGo

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96 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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I have quite a few Space Books, mainly about Apollo.

Best ones? Certainly "Carrying the Fire" as previously mentioned, but also "Rocketman" (Pete Conrad, Apollo 12) and "All American Boys" (Walt Cunningham, Apollo 7) are of note.

Andrew Chaikin's "A Man on the Moon" is superb, as is Andrew Smith's "Moondust".

Probably the most disappointing read is "Forever Young" (John Young of various missions). An absolute legend but his book isn't that great.

"Lost Moon" is an essential read too.


Eric Mc

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Saturday 17th December 2016
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Can this thread be put back in the Science Forum please? I think it's where it best fits. And it was opened in November. Why take so long to move it?

Sebring440

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103 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Can this thread be put back in the Science Forum please? I think it's where it best fits. And it was opened in November. Why take so long to move it?
Can you leave it here please? I wouldn't have discovered this very useful thread if it had been in the science section.