Patrick O'Brian - Master and Commander
Discussion
Superb books. All mine on audio books and waiting for some more to catch up on audible. But they ain't half losing your self in them.
Different to hHornblower of course, different styles.
Edit. Am I right I thinking cochrane was an inspiration for both authors?
Different to hHornblower of course, different styles.
Edit. Am I right I thinking cochrane was an inspiration for both authors?
Edited by jmorgan on Wednesday 15th April 20:10
jmorgan said:
Edit. Am I right I thinking cochrane was an inspiration for both authors?
Don't know about Hornblower but I believe Jack Aubrey was based on Thomas Cochrane.A good example of fact being stranger than fiction.
Cracking book about Cochrane here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cochrane-Britannias-CASSEL...
Nom de ploom said:
Paul Dishman said:
Brilliant books, need a bit of perserverance to get into at first
thanks for his in particular as I gave up on book one after about 3 or 4 chapters....i lost count of the explicit details around rank, appearance, naval history etc etc...
shall I give it another go?
CuckooInMyNest said:
Don't know about Hornblower but I believe Jack Aubrey was based on Thomas Cochrane.
A good example of fact being stranger than fiction.
Cracking book about Cochrane here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cochrane-Britannias-CASSEL...
I think that Hornblower was conceived as a young protege of Nelson - certainly very much in the Nelson mould without being quite as eccentric. The rest, from Ramage to Aubrey, were based on Hornblower, with variations. They all used some of Cochrane's adventures - and you would be right to say that HMS Surprise was based on HMS Speedy. However, all of these heroes are died in the wool natural sea captains and patriots. Cochrane, in the great Scottish tradition, was an, er, pirate.A good example of fact being stranger than fiction.
Cracking book about Cochrane here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cochrane-Britannias-CASSEL...
Nom de ploom said:
thanks for his in particular as I gave up on book one after about 3 or 4 chapters....
i lost count of the explicit details around rank, appearance, naval history etc etc...
shall I give it another go?
Definitely. His technique is to immerse you in the detail to the point that you think that you are one of the deckhands. its not a fashionable approach, but the way to go is to stick with it.i lost count of the explicit details around rank, appearance, naval history etc etc...
shall I give it another go?
cardigankid said:
Nom de ploom said:
thanks for his in particular as I gave up on book one after about 3 or 4 chapters....
i lost count of the explicit details around rank, appearance, naval history etc etc...
shall I give it another go?
Definitely. His technique is to immerse you in the detail to the point that you think that you are one of the deckhands. its not a fashionable approach, but the way to go is to stick with it.i lost count of the explicit details around rank, appearance, naval history etc etc...
shall I give it another go?
Only twice?! I've read the whole lot six times and still find nuances that had passed me by in earlier read through's. I think I'll leave it a year before I start again. Yes, I am very keen on the writing style and the stories. Perfection.
Be aware that O'Brian spent years researching actual British naval actions and using the story lines from them whilst placing his characters in the story.
I think you'll find that it was Aubrey's first command HMS Sophie that was based on Cochrane's HMS Speedy not Surprise.
Be aware that O'Brian spent years researching actual British naval actions and using the story lines from them whilst placing his characters in the story.
I think you'll find that it was Aubrey's first command HMS Sophie that was based on Cochrane's HMS Speedy not Surprise.
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