Ulez Does it effect the value of campers
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I am looking to buy a motorhome /camper and notice that none compliant ulez vans are prices at much the same as euro 6 vans. I am concerned that non euro6 vans could have problems not only in London but other uk cities and in Europe as this mental climate /cash is a money spinner for councils.
Seeing motorhomes advertised at 70K plus that will have to pay a charge in these areas. Are people asumming it's just old bangers this effects.
Seeing motorhomes advertised at 70K plus that will have to pay a charge in these areas. Are people asumming it's just old bangers this effects.
I think the effect of ULEZ on campers will be minimal. Certainly camper owners living in ULEZ cities will have to buy newer or swallow the daily cost. If you only move your camper in and out of a ULEZ zone a dozen times a year, then it will be cheaper pay the daily charge.
Whilst there are campsite in cities, they are in general relatively few. Most campers would drive to an outer station, say Watford, to visit London by train. Parking a camper in any city would be difficult and expensive. Same with say Bristol or Oxford, most campers would leave their vans at park and ride sites.
Whilst there are campsite in cities, they are in general relatively few. Most campers would drive to an outer station, say Watford, to visit London by train. Parking a camper in any city would be difficult and expensive. Same with say Bristol or Oxford, most campers would leave their vans at park and ride sites.
Be careful in Portsmouth, their LEZ is only a commercial vehicle trap at present but of course that will change in future. However I understand that some MoHos are classed as commercials...
If you're using the international ferry port, don't be tempted to enter the city...ie don't wander from the path! ...if you overshoot the roundabout at the bottom of the M275 you'll get clobbered.
And I have a feeling that it's impossible to get to the IoW ferry without entering that zone, driving all that ferry business away and along to Southampton... how daft.
If you're using the international ferry port, don't be tempted to enter the city...ie don't wander from the path! ...if you overshoot the roundabout at the bottom of the M275 you'll get clobbered.
And I have a feeling that it's impossible to get to the IoW ferry without entering that zone, driving all that ferry business away and along to Southampton... how daft.
My van conversion campervan is £300 a day within the M25 once the new LEZ is in place.
I was caught out in the Portsmouth CAZ in exactly the scenario described in the above post and that cost me £50. Although private cars and vans are exempt, my van is classed as a Private HGV even though it says Motor Caravan on the V5. It's the same size and weight and engine and emissions as the 2.8t, 3.1t and 3.5t variants of the base van, which are all exempt, but my slightly stiffer rear springs that take it to 3.8t make it a non compliant planet killer apparently. I wouldn't mind, but it weighs 2.2t in it's current configuration. The fact that I could in theory carry another 1.6 tons in it if I wanted to cost me £50.
There's a growing list of places that I can't go without cost, in the case of London it's a huge cost, out of all proportion imo.
I was caught out in the Portsmouth CAZ in exactly the scenario described in the above post and that cost me £50. Although private cars and vans are exempt, my van is classed as a Private HGV even though it says Motor Caravan on the V5. It's the same size and weight and engine and emissions as the 2.8t, 3.1t and 3.5t variants of the base van, which are all exempt, but my slightly stiffer rear springs that take it to 3.8t make it a non compliant planet killer apparently. I wouldn't mind, but it weighs 2.2t in it's current configuration. The fact that I could in theory carry another 1.6 tons in it if I wanted to cost me £50.
There's a growing list of places that I can't go without cost, in the case of London it's a huge cost, out of all proportion imo.
Edited by 21st Century Man on Tuesday 22 August 17:28
If you are in the campervan mindset, ie getting out into the countryside on a weekend then you will work around the rules, Sheffield now charges me if I go into the zone, so I simply don't go there anymore in the camper, I drive around the clean air zone to camp out if I need to.
The zones will no doubt get bigger, so I'll just travel to places I can go without paying the tax, that's what it is, a tax.
The zones will no doubt get bigger, so I'll just travel to places I can go without paying the tax, that's what it is, a tax.
From a dealers perspective based in Devon-
Camoervans so stuff that's used as a daily then yeah uts a bonus if uts euro 6, bigger stuff we can easy talk customers into as city's aren't a bigger van stomping or campsite ground.
Got a good budget that's borderline euro 5 or 6 then buy the 6 just in case
Camoervans so stuff that's used as a daily then yeah uts a bonus if uts euro 6, bigger stuff we can easy talk customers into as city's aren't a bigger van stomping or campsite ground.
Got a good budget that's borderline euro 5 or 6 then buy the 6 just in case
Ulez is very much starting to affect the camper motorhome market.
It's expanding all the time and whilst being out in the country means you don't get hit so often consider that people live in towns and their town may move to a a LEZ
Plus many of us travel in Europe and the zones are expanding and whilst minimal charges currently.
I know a van converter who is doing lots of Jap conversions because they are lez compliant and it keeps the price point low with lots of Alphards.
It's expanding all the time and whilst being out in the country means you don't get hit so often consider that people live in towns and their town may move to a a LEZ
Plus many of us travel in Europe and the zones are expanding and whilst minimal charges currently.
I know a van converter who is doing lots of Jap conversions because they are lez compliant and it keeps the price point low with lots of Alphards.
cliffords said:
Have a Google Euro 7 standard come into place next year. Then I wonder what will happen next 
July 2025 is the current timeline for Euro 7. Also, if you have a look at the levels and compare them to the current Euro 6e, they aren't vastly different. General emissions levels stay the same, it's the addition of things like brake and tyre particulate matter and ammonia emission as a result of catalytic reduction of AdBlue in the exhaust that is going to be measured. That could be hard, expect to see ceramic brake pads fitted as standard, and a five-hundred-quid brake pad change from the dealer! However, that's all liable to change, lobbying from the manufacturers that it can't be met (Daimler, for one) and the EU knows that certain things will be pushed down the road to retain jobs in the EU, as we still do design and produce a sizeable amount of vehicles hereGassing Station | Tents, Caravans & Motorhomes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff